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Old 22-07-2008, 09:57 PM
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Question Rat Advice, please?

Hello, I'm a newbie here, I've been reading here for a while and this seems like the best place to ask for advice.

I'm getting a couple of rats soon, once we've finished re-decorating my room. I want to make sure I have everything I need for them before I get them.

First, the cage I'm getting is from this website: Pet World Direct - Rat Chinchilla and Other Cages and it's the one called 'The Haven'. I have been assured that it is big enough for two rats. I was just wondering if there are other things I need for it other than what it comes with?

Second, I've heard of litter training rats, but I'm not sure how to go about it. Can you get special litter trays for them or do you just mark off an area for them?

These will be the very first rats I've ever had, so I want to make sure I'm doing everything right
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Re: Rat Advice, please?

The cage above urs is the cage my neice has for her rat ( the abode )..its brilliant, very very roomy and shes hung hammocks and ropes etc to it...the rat luvs it.

to be honest the only rat thats litter trained in my house is my gambian pouch rat and he uses a lil tray weve put down in the corner of his cage which is massive obviously coz hes gonna be massive lol...doing their bizznizz in one part comes naturally to gambians but i donno about the normal rats tho.

My other rats ( 2 sphinx rats ) poo anywhere lol...theve never been the sort to do their bizznizz in one corner and if that can be done ild be interested to know how lol.

good luck wiv ur new rats and please show us pictures of them

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Old 23-07-2008, 06:41 PM
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Re: Rat Advice, please?

Hi, i am the prowed owner of three dumbo rats and they live in a jenny cage which is big enough for them. The cage that you have shown above is an ok size if you only intend on getting two. Although i know im unable to settle with mine and i just wont more because they are the best pet i have ever owned! So if you intend on adding to your rat family then you will need a bigger cage is you are going to introduce any more.

My rats have loads of toys, but i have found that they like tubes and things that they can chew the best. (rat chew sticks are one of thier favs)

I have heard form many people about litter training their rats and it seems to me like it very much depends on the rat. If after a while you discover that they only do their business in one corner then it is easy. After you have abstablished which corner it is buy one of the plastic littler trays and place it into this corner. (do this after you have just given them a clean cage and put some of their old business in the litter try.) Also make sure that the littler in the tray is different to the rest of the cage.

Is there anything i forgot to mention??
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Re: Rat Advice, please?

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The cage above urs is the cage my neice has for her rat ( the abode )..its brilliant, very very roomy and shes hung hammocks and ropes etc to it...the rat luvs it.

to be honest the only rat thats litter trained in my house is my gambian pouch rat and he uses a lil tray weve put down in the corner of his cage which is massive obviously coz hes gonna be massive lol...doing their bizznizz in one part comes naturally to gambians but i donno about the normal rats tho.

My other rats ( 2 sphinx rats ) poo anywhere lol...theve never been the sort to do their bizznizz in one corner and if that can be done ild be interested to know how lol.

good luck wiv ur new rats and please show us pictures of them
Ah yeah, I looked at the Abode first, but since it's on wheels I have nowhere to put it, that's why I chose the Haven so I can put it on my desk.

Well, I'll see what happens, I never really thought of rats as being an animal that you can litter train, but we'll see.

I'll definitely get pictures when I get them!


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Hi, i am the prowed owner of three dumbo rats and they live in a jenny cage which is big enough for them. The cage that you have shown above is an ok size if you only intend on getting two. Although i know im unable to settle with mine and i just wont more because they are the best pet i have ever owned! So if you intend on adding to your rat family then you will need a bigger cage is you are going to introduce any more.

My rats have loads of toys, but i have found that they like tubes and things that they can chew the best. (rat chew sticks are one of thier favs)

I have heard form many people about litter training their rats and it seems to me like it very much depends on the rat. If after a while you discover that they only do their business in one corner then it is easy. After you have abstablished which corner it is buy one of the plastic littler trays and place it into this corner. (do this after you have just given them a clean cage and put some of their old business in the litter try.) Also make sure that the littler in the tray is different to the rest of the cage.

Is there anything i forgot to mention??
I was only intending on getting two, but I've no doubt I'll want more in time. But if that happens I can always buy a new cage. Although, the place where I'm getting them only has 3 females in, and I feel kinda bad about the idea of leaving one there on her own, so who knows, she might come home with me too! In that case, I'll find a bigger cage.

Oh I'll definitely be buying them lots of toys, I don't want them to get bored! I've heard that bird toys are the best, like those ropes that the rats can climb up? Will the one hammock that comes with the cage be enough, or should I buy an extra one? I mean, will they both use that one or will they need one each?

Also, if you look at the picture there's a sort of wooden box on the side of the cage. Now, I've been told that this is a hay feeder. Firstly, I thought that you couldn't give hay to rats? Isn't it dangerous because it's sharp and can scratch them? Also, it's hard to tell from the picture, but the box thing doesn't seem to have a lid or anything. Should I be concerned that the rats could get out of the cage through that? Has anyone got any idea what that thing is for??

Thanks for all your help, guys!
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Re: Rat Advice, please?

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Ah yeah, I looked at the Abode first, but since it's on wheels I have nowhere to put it, that's why I chose the Haven so I can put it on my desk.

Well, I'll see what happens, I never really thought of rats as being an animal that you can litter train, but we'll see.

I'll definitely get pictures when I get them!




I was only intending on getting two, but I've no doubt I'll want more in time. But if that happens I can always buy a new cage. Although, the place where I'm getting them only has 3 females in, and I feel kinda bad about the idea of leaving one there on her own, so who knows, she might come home with me too! In that case, I'll find a bigger cage.

Oh I'll definitely be buying them lots of toys, I don't want them to get bored! I've heard that bird toys are the best, like those ropes that the rats can climb up? Will the one hammock that comes with the cage be enough, or should I buy an extra one? I mean, will they both use that one or will they need one each?

Also, if you look at the picture there's a sort of wooden box on the side of the cage. Now, I've been told that this is a hay feeder. Firstly, I thought that you couldn't give hay to rats? Isn't it dangerous because it's sharp and can scratch them? Also, it's hard to tell from the picture, but the box thing doesn't seem to have a lid or anything. Should I be concerned that the rats could get out of the cage through that? Has anyone got any idea what that thing is for??

Thanks for all your help, guys!
I'm not sure about rats and hay. I have never given any to my rats in the past.

You could always remove the box if you're worried about them escaping through it. As on the back of the box it looks as though it's removable via a little bolt/clip. We all know how rats can be escape artists
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Re: Rat Advice, please?

That's what I thought. I'm just trying to figure out what it's there for

Perhaps there'll be something in the instructions that come with it that wil tell me.
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Old 24-07-2008, 09:53 PM
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Re: Rat Advice, please?

Rats love their hammocks some good websites:

Acrorats = highly recommend the sputniks

The Rat Warehouse - slightly high on the postage front but they make the most wonderful treats

Fuzzbutt Cage Comforts - Rat Hammocks, Ferret Hammocks, Chinchilla Hammocks, Hamster Hammocks, Snooze Cube, Bunker Cube, HoojCube, Cuddle Cube, Cage Condo, Corner Crush - every rat needs a snooze cube (site seems to be down for some reason but sooo worth it when it is open).

Also night want to get yourself some 'yoggies' the dog ones best - mine love these.
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Old 25-07-2008, 04:40 AM
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Re: Rat Advice, please?

How about this cage? (I'm just looking for something a bit bigger in case I give in and bring the third home too!)

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The bar spacing looks a bit big to me...
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Re: Rat Advice, please?

i have a critter 1 for a extra cage if any of my 10 rats r sick which hasnt happened yet. the bar spacing is fine even for baby rats. mine r all litter trained i just put a corner tray in and put rodent litter in it and they just used it. hope this helps x
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Re: Rat Advice, please?

Hi there, I have had rats for years - so be prepared that these little furries will get under your skin and you will NEVER want to be without one again! As far as cages go - both look fine to me, but be aware that baby rats can be quite timid, so I would only allow them one shelf at first so that they can become confident. I have found that large cages freak them out a little - they just never know what may be lurking on the next floor!

Also, cardboard boxes and tubes have always been a favourite with my babies. Preferably ones with small holes so that they can squeeze in and then peer out! I rarely buy toys, I just use stuff from around the house.

If you are letting them out of the cage regularly, make sure you chew-proof the area you let them into.

Food wise, mine have a bit of whatever we have or baby food is something they love, plus yoghurt covered peanuts they would kill for!

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