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Old 17-04-2009, 10:06 AM
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Unhappy Play fighting or Real Fighting?

Flake and Daisy wee having a run of the full garden this morning as usual and all seemed fine. Since we have had them Daisy always shows her authority by mounting Flake and up until today he has never had a problem with this. Infact usually he seems to quietly sit there until she has got it out of her system lol!

Today she started mounting him and he was fine with it but then after a while it looked as if he wanted to mount her but she wasnt hhaving it. For a short while it looked very cute as they were circling round and round trying to mount each other but then suddenly Flake went ape He really went wild pouncing and diving at poor Daisy and all I saw was chunks of her fur flying every where... I ran outside and heard lots of noise and then suddenly Daisy was just lying down on the floor and Flake was off doing his own thing. Usually if I approach them when they are free in the garden its difficult to actually pet them unless they come up to me as they run off. Daisy however seemed to be in shock and just lay they cold and still while I stroked her and stroked her and softly spoke to her. I then got her carrier and put her in it and took her inside with lots of straw and hay to her cage. She seemd to be in shock there too just sitting them motionless!

Mamaged to get Flake in too and put him with her. There was none of their usually greetig and nose rubbing she just gave him the col shoulder and he the same. After a while Flake did try and nuzzle his head under her front leg but she turned away!!!

Was this harmless fighting or could it have been serious if I didnt intervene? As far as I can see Daisy doesnt seem to have any bites or anything just chunks or fur came out!
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Old 17-04-2009, 10:11 AM
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Re: Play fighting or Real Fighting?

Funny you should say that mine are doimng exaclty the same at the moment!! Barney keeps trying to mount Dexie (usually they are all loving and fine together) anyway she isnt having any of it and they keep fighting but its nothing serious i think they are just trying to say that they dont want any hanky panky!! It was funny the other night cos they would fight then each go off into a corner and they would take it in turns in see who could stomp their back legs the loudest!! But they have been doing this for the past 3 nights now!! Think its cos spring is in the air!!

Its only really serious if they lock onto each other and run round in circles or they go for each others genitals, im sure its just a scuffle although it does worry you, i know! x
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Re: Play fighting or Real Fighting?

im unsure hun but maybe as flake is getting older he is now finding his feet and wants to be boss?
they should be fine its prob just them sorting it out but keep an eye on them hun
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Re: Play fighting or Real Fighting?

My female Old English has just come into season for the first time, and is harrassing her partner, a neutered male Dutch. She humps him constantly, both his head and his rump, and urinates all over him. After a while he gets a bit peed off and lets her know this, after a little chasing and fur pulling, they both have a lie down, as its obviously a tiring experience. Its like they zone out for a few minutes, as normally its hards to get near my Old English, but when shes like this, i can just walk up to her and pick her up.
Mine have free run of my garden, and there are plenty of places where they can get away from eachother. Personally id just leave yours too it, unless the scuffles turn into full on fights. Putting them in an enclosed space, ie hutch or cage, is just limiting their ability to get away from eachother, and more likely to end up in more serious injury if things start to go wrong.
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Old 17-04-2009, 10:20 AM
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Re: Play fighting or Real Fighting?

Yes just keep an eye on them as a little scuffle can turn into a nasty fight. If they lock onto eachother then you need to separate them immediately, this can sometimes cause the bond to be permanently broken as well as causing serious injury.
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Yes just keep an eye on them as a little scuffle can turn into a nasty fight. If they lock onto eachother then you need to separate them immediately, this can sometimes cause the bond to be permanently broken as well as causing serious injury.
When you say lock onto each other what exactly does this mean? Sorry if that sounds like a silly question! It started off what seemed like harmless play fighting but it quickly seemed to get alot more serious (in my unexperienced opinion) it just looked alot more vicious and as it was so quick I couldnt really see if teeth were involed but it did look as if they were some how holding ontoeach otehr and yes whilst doing so going round in a circle. which is when I saw the fur flying every where.

I shall keep a very close eye on them and hope it doesnt happen again. Apart from this are there any tips on what to do?
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When you say lock onto each other what exactly does this mean? Sorry if that sounds like a silly question! It started off what seemed like harmless play fighting but it quickly seemed to get alot more serious (in my unexperienced opinion) it just looked alot more vicious and as it was so quick I couldnt really see if teeth were involed but it did look as if they were some how holding ontoeach otehr and yes whilst doing so going round in a circle. which is when I saw the fur flying every where.

I shall keep a very close eye on them and hope it doesnt happen again. Apart from this are there any tips on what to do?
I think they will be ok for now! I panic like mad with mine as it does look viscious and there is fur everywhere and we get a brush and put it in the middle of them to separate them then they go moody and then they are ok!! I also get confused about the locking onto each other to be honest! Mine run round attacking each other for a few seconds then again and again then calm down, i think its just cos of the mating season so im told! I get worried though cos of Dave getting attacked!! Hope Flake and Daisy are ok xxx

Just keep checking on them and stroking them both and im sure they will be friends again
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Re: Play fighting or Real Fighting?

When they lock onto each other they either grab each other and lie on their sides and start kicking, or they lock teeth and whirl around .I think it sounds like he'd just had enough of her showing him who was boss. Mine have a little spat occasionally and there are little chunks of fur. She might just have been a bit out of breath afterwards and sulking. It is worrying I know but it's to be expected when two rabbits (or people!) live together 24 hours a day.
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