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Old 31-08-2010, 03:11 PM
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Angry This i why you should never buy from a petshop....

They are supplied by breeders that just don't care.... like the one removed that had 68 buns and 110 guinea pigs from yesturday

This is how they were living (pics taken by Duchess)



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Old 31-08-2010, 03:33 PM
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Re: This i why you should never buy from a petshop....

i dont think that you should tar all petshop breeders with the same brush! i work in a pet shop and my manager always visits the places we get our animals from! if she does not like the look of the place then she wont purchase and if its really unfair to the animals she will report them! we never buy from BIG breeders and always collect the animals so we can keep a check on the premices! usually people are more than happy to be checked out and if they are not then it is usually dodgy!
but i will agree that the conditions od those hutches are descusting!
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Old 31-08-2010, 03:53 PM
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Re: This i why you should never buy from a petshop....

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i dont think that you should tar all petshop breeders with the same brush! i work in a pet shop and my manager always visits the places we get our animals from! if she does not like the look of the place then she wont purchase and if its really unfair to the animals she will report them! we never buy from BIG breeders and always collect the animals so we can keep a check on the premices! usually people are more than happy to be checked out and if they are not then it is usually dodgy!
but i will agree that the conditions od those hutches are descusting!
No animals should be sold in petshops, ALL breeders that sell to petshops do not care about their animals because they and you do not know where they are going! You sell tiny hutches, anyone can walk in off the street and pay £25 for a bunny they could shut it in one of these hutches and you would not have a clue, the breeder looked like a nice lady, well groomed/dressed! Its people like these rescues that have helped here that have to clean up petshops mess! One of the rescues that has helped has a waiting list of 100 bunnies to go in!!!


These hutches are standard 3ft petshop hutches

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Old 31-08-2010, 03:56 PM
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i dont think that you should tar all petshop breeders with the same brush! i work in a pet shop and my manager always visits the places we get our animals from! if she does not like the look of the place then she wont purchase and if its really unfair to the animals she will report them! we never buy from BIG breeders and always collect the animals so we can keep a check on the premices! usually people are more than happy to be checked out and if they are not then it is usually dodgy!
but i will agree that the conditions od those hutches are descusting!
I do think ALL pet shops should be put into this. Yes ok not all are in these conditions but pet shop breeders breed for quantity not quality. One of my rabbits was taken from a small scale breeder, she was only a year old herself and had already been bred from twice. She herself was bred by this lady and has a lifetime of problems with her teeth due to the careless breeding. This rabbit was also going to be put to sleep by the breeder if I hadn't taken her the day I did and the reason for the pts was she was agressive. That doe is now 5 years old and is the most gentle creature I've met, the reason she's no longer agressive? She was spayed. She also has lots of teeth problems and has to have her teeth filed once a month as well as having her front teeth removed. She had these problems before I took her and was still being used for breeding, so imagine how her babies are health wise if any of them even found caring homes that would take care of them through the teeth problems. Out of the two litters she had I wonder how many are even still alive.

Any breeder that will sell to a pet shop cares only about money and not the welfare of the animals! A decent breeder will find homes for the animals themselves making sure each baby goes to the right home, a pet shop gives little to no advice to anyone wanting to buy a rabbit. Its all about money for the pet shops and the breeders that supply pet shops.
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Re: This i why you should never buy from a petshop....

even if the people go to breeders does that still rule out people putting them into tiny cages? how many breeders go to the buyers house and check them out? i have bought animals from breeders and have never been checked! people will always buy from petshops as we can still offer advise to people and do our best to ensure the animal has a happy and healthy long life in the care of the original buyer! this is all that anyone can do.
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Old 31-08-2010, 04:13 PM
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even if the people go to breeders does that still rule out people putting them into tiny cages? how many breeders go to the buyers house and check them out? i have bought animals from breeders and have never been checked! people will always buy from petshops as we can still offer advise to people and do our best to ensure the animal has a happy and healthy long life in the care of the original buyer! this is all that anyone can do.
Actually some breeders do homecheck. Rescues homecheck which is what everyone should do, why do you think petshops are not allowed to sell dogs now???? I personally would not buy from a breeder or petshop, there are 33,000 bunnies plus in rescues right now and more on the waiting list why on earth would you want to let anyone come into a shop and buy one?

I'd love to know what information you give them

The petshop this lady bred for also claimed to check out all their breeders and are very well known. Its all about money, petshops and petshop breeders have no idea where their 'stock' is going.

I went to pampurred pets the other day to ask what happens when they dont sell a bunny, they said that bunny goes back to the breeder to be bred from obviously dont care what genetic history is, thats why so many buns have health problems.
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I'd love to know what information you give them
i have a distinction and a distinction * in animal care and also own rabbits so i do know how to keep a rabbit and can offer sound advise!

you said some breeders check their potencial homes? SOME being the main word here as this means that not all breeders are checking home which should put them in the same position as petshops! there is no right or wrong in this argument and only oppinion.
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Re: This i why you should never buy from a petshop....

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i have a distinction and a distinction * in animal care and also own rabbits so i do know how to keep a rabbit and can offer sound advise!

you said some breeders check their potencial homes? SOME being the main word here as this means that not all breeders are checking home which should put them in the same position as petshops! there is no right or wrong in this argument and only oppinion.
Oh great a qualification in animal welfare and you sell 3ft hutches to rabbit owners

I dont agree with breeders not home checking, there are responsible breeders and not so responsible breeders i wich they wouldnt breed at all we already have too many rabbits!

As i have said, pet shops are not allowed to sell dogs so why are they selling rabbits? What petshop do you work for?

There is definetely a right answer here, petshops should not sell rabbits or any other animals and i will help campaign to eventually stop it. Most bunnies in rescues are the result of people buying cute pet bunnies on impulse, stuffing them in a little hutch, hormones arrive and cute baby bunny is fed up of the tiny space and become aggressive.... so they dump it at a rescue to vaccinate, neuter and sort out any other medical problems... how much money do you think that costs?

This rescue is not a one case its a regular occurance!
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Re: This i why you should never buy from a petshop....

ok your now putting words into my mouth! i never said i sell 3ft cages with our rabbits as the minimum size hutch we sell is a double story hutch! and i dont work for a big petshop bussiness so there is no point me telling you who i work for! do you disagree with all animals being sold in petshops including fish and reptiles? or just rabbits?
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ok your now putting words into my mouth! i never said i sell 3ft cages with our rabbits as the minimum size hutch we sell is a double story hutch! and i dont work for a big petshop bussiness so there is no point me telling you who i work for! do you disagree with all animals being sold in petshops including fish and reptiles? or just rabbits?
Yes i disagree with them all being sold in petshops, i think its awful anyone can walk in and buy them then dump them at a rescue when they dont match the curtains or get bored.

How big are you're two storey hutches? Considering RSPCA recommends min 6ftx2ft hutch for a pair of buns. Most two storey hutches ive seen in petshops are 3/4ft max and certainly are not 2ft in depth and some of that space is taken up with the ladder. Buns should be able to take three hops from one end to the other and be able to stretch out.
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