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Old 02-08-2009, 12:10 PM
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Re: Should vivisection be banned?

No I wouldnt but the point is that there is no longer any need for this barbaric treatment of animals in the name of medical research.
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Re: Should vivisection be banned?

I don't think any animal testing is right and try to use all products that state that. On the other hand though with human guinea pigs being payed for testing new drugs!! Thats not right either. I have watched many videos of vivisection and animal testing even for dog and cat food and they make me sick but at the end of the day what can the minority do when the majority are doing it???
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i think it should be banned even for medical research because its outdated & unreliable & there are now other alternatives so using animals is cruel because its unesessary

BUAV state using animals in experiments for medical purposes is deeply flawed and old fashioned and an impedient to real medical progress, such procedures are fundamentaly compromised by the phsyical differences between Human beings and other species of animal.



These are the findings of Dr Jarrod Bailey, Scientific Director, Europeans for Medical Progress.(MEP are NOT an animal rights organisation, they are an organisation based on HUMAN ethics & believe that animal experiments do not serve the best interests of the public & compromise Human safety!)........

He said that claims about the effectiveness of animal experiments are meaningless without supporting evidence from scientific literature. He took 'The Associate Parliamentary group for Animal Welfare' through numerous examples of medical research being hindered or
delayed by animal experiments including the case of Antibiotics being shelved for 10 years due to an adverse reaction in rabbits.

He stated that medical progress advances 'despite' of and not because of animal use and stated that research must remain in a Human context.

He quoted many instances of dangerously ineffective & misleading animal research from Primate based Aids research into Multiple sclerosis to stroke research, incluing the recently withdrawn arthritis drug Vioxx which had cardioprotective effects in animals but caused as many as 140,000 fatal heart attacks & strokes in Humans.

He said that 82% of GP's are concerned that animal Data can be misleading when applied to Humans & that animal experiments have Never been formally evaluated and the Home Office has no plans to do so.
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Re: Should vivisection be banned?

I cant see why the researchers would use animal testing if it was not the best way forward. It will be expensive, take a lot of time and be very frustrating. If there are other ways then all well and good but personally I would rather the most failsafe method was used.
I have worked with animals that were used for research into animal anaesthetics. I can honestly say they were all well treated, had a good if short life and didnt suffer in the slightest during any of the procedures. As they were all bred specifically for the job or, in the case of horses, sometimes donated so they could spend a year or so in happy retirement doing a useful job, I can honestly say that none of them had their lives cut short and that their quality of life (however long) was far better than a lot of pet animals.

If there are centres that do not follow the stringent laws that are laid down and have handlers that love their animals then they should be closed down, but I would imagine that most of the 'horror stories' are fabricated by the activists.
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Re: Should vivisection be banned?

Should vivisection be banned? YES.
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Re: Should vivisection be banned?

this may be harsh,but there are prisons full of peadophiles and rapists,use them!
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this may be harsh,but there are prisons full of peadophiles and rapists,use them!
That is exactly what I think.
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:27 PM
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glad im not the only one
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Re: Should vivisection be banned?

turn this into a poll
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