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Old 01-08-2009, 05:47 PM
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If you were dying would you refuse the medication? I know I wouldn't!
i wouldnt either, but there are alternatives to vivisection & many think using animals is actually hindering medical research.
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i wouldnt either, but there are alternatives to vivisection & many think using animals is actually hindering medical research.
I don't if there are any alternatives, if there are then that's brilliant! No-one here wants any animal to die needlessly but if that's our only option then I would take the medicine to live
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I don't if there are any alternatives, if there are then that's brilliant! No-one here wants any animal to die needlessly but if that's our only option then I would take the medicine to live
my 1st post from a completely unbiased source, even EMP are against it they believe that even a little difference in DNA can make a Huge & life-threatening difference in medical research.
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I disagree. I love animals to bits but there is and always will be a natural order. I am not wanting to cause an argument. Just putting my point across. My brother and other family members might not be here today if it weren't for medical techniques discovered and improved using animal testing and
vivisection.

I totally agree that there is no need to torture animals....in terms of make-up and other cosmetics...as they are luxuries, not needs. But where life or death of a human is concerned I see things differently.

I imagine there are many people on here who will say that it should be banned...yet they are taking medication only available due to animal testing etc.
just want to say i have not taken any form of medication for about 8 years now. partly because i dont think my life is worth more then billions of animals and partly because taking medicines make you weak, id much rather fight it off myself and make my body stronger. so far iv fought of tonsillitis and an ear infection, fortunatly i dont get ill often anyway but even if i was dying i wouldnt take anything except a lethal injection if needed, when its time for me to go i want to go, i dont like interfearing with nature.

just wanted everyone to know that i am not a hypocrite and there are also many others who think the same. not everyone who says vivisection is wrong then goes on to use the products made by tourture.
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:16 PM
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just want to say i have not taken any form of medication for about 8 years now. partly because i dont think my life is worth more then billions of animals and partly because taking medicines make you weak, id much rather fight it off myself and make my body stronger. so far iv fought of tonsillitis and an ear infection, fortunatly i dont get ill often anyway but even if i was dying i wouldnt take anything except a lethal injection if needed, when its time for me to go i want to go, i dont like interfearing with nature.

just wanted everyone to know that i am not a hypocrite and there are also many others who think the same. not everyone who says vivisection is wrong then goes on to use the products made by tourture.
I would love to be able to do that however I have a low immune system along with asthma (which I HAVE to take medication for I'm even on steroids) and I suffer with severe rheumatoid arthritis and hypermobility. I couldn't live without my medication
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:33 PM
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I would love to be able to do that however I have a low immune system along with asthma (which I HAVE to take medication for I'm even on steroids) and I suffer with severe rheumatoid arthritis and hypermobility. I couldn't live without my medication
sorry if i came acocross a bit preachy, i dont expect other people to do it too, its up to them but i dont like it when people asume because i say im against something i dont actually stick to it. once i get something in my head i have to stick to it, a bit of a pride issue me thinks. lol
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sorry if i came acocross a bit preachy, i dont expect other people to do it too, its up to them but i dont like it when people asume because i say im against something i dont actually stick to it. once i get something in my head i have to stick to it, a bit of a pride issue me thinks. lol
Don't worry, you didn't come across as preachy at all
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Don't worry, you didn't come across as preachy at all
thats good then i can get carried away at times. lol
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Re: Should vivisection be banned?

Instead of using animals for research to test drugs for human use, why not use child molesters, sex offenders, rapists, and felons for research. The results would be much more conclusive and meaningful. And it would make people think twice about committing heinous acts against children and others. They're not doing much good anyway. But then there would always be the bleeding heart liberals who would claim violation of civil rights and legalized Nazism. But what about the civil rights of the victims of crimes?
I still think vivisection should be banned everywhere, and other methods such as those above be used. I don't like looking at pictures of cut apart and dismembered live animals any more than anyone else, and in my 10 years of animal rights activism, I've seen plenty. As a footnote, years ago, I remember looking thru a particular magazine at photos of the Red Chinese and NVA cutting apart strung up captured American soldiers during the Vietnam War, it was not pretty, I had to remove those pages so I could finish reading the magazine. It still haunts me today. That's what cats amd dogs endure every day at HLS and other 'research' labs. Just my opinion.

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Instead of using animals for research to test drugs for human use, why not use child molesters, sex offenders, rapists, and felons for research. The results would be much more conclusive and meaningful. And it would make people think twice about committing heinous acts against children and others. They're not doing much good anyway. But then there would always be the bleeding heart liberals who would claim violation of civil rights and legalized Nazism. But what about the civil rights of the victims of crimes?
I still think vivisection should be banned everywhere, and other methods such as those above be used. I don't like looking at pictures of cut apart and dismembered live animals any more than anyone else, and in my 10 years of animal rights activism, I've seen plenty. As a footnote, years ago, I remember looking thru a particular magazine at photos of the Red Chinese and NVA cutting apart strung up captured American soldiers during the Vietnam War, it was not pretty, I had to remove those pages so I could finish reading the magazine. It still haunts me today. That's what cats amd dogs endure every day at HLS and other 'research' labs. Just my opinion.

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Funny how you use loads of medication....gonna stop taking it? No of curse you wont.
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