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Old 26-05-2008, 09:54 AM
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Re: Ragwort - how serious?

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The only bit on here which states you are not obliged to remove ragwort on your land is dated 1959!! the amended section does not make it clear about the issue.
I suspect you are not used to reading laws. The age of the law makes no difference.
The only amendment is to give the minister the power to create GUIDANCE.
There is no legal obligation on landowners to control ragwort.

You are clearly wrong on this. Just stop and think for a moment. If you are wrong on this you were told something wrong by someone. Just like all the other false publicity. Read that website again and read the myths section.( i'll bet a lot of money that you only read two pages of the site) I'll bet you thought a lot of the myths were true. All of them have scientific references provided and there is a second site that says the same things.

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People are being misled by propaganda.
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Old 26-05-2008, 07:14 PM
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Re: Ragwort - how serious?

Well why have people been successfully cautioned and forced to remove the ragwort on their land!
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Old 26-05-2008, 09:40 PM
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Re: Ragwort - how serious?

I think id still rather be cautious about this issue as i dont think its worth any potential risk.I have heard of horses that have died as a result of ragwort poisoning,this must have been concluded by a vet.Im more likely to go along/believe in facts which ive seen,or heard of by reputable persons than take much notice in some piece of government legistation.This being a government that has always been a load of thieving idiots in my opinion.And as far as scientists go they probably havent been within spitting distance of a horse anyway.And as we all know they make mistakes...
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Re: Ragwort - how serious?

Very serious, it has a cumalitive effect, you must wear gloves when you pull it then make sure you take the pulled ones out and burn them as they are more likely to eat it when its dead, the councils in Wales do next to nothing to eradicate it.
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Old 31-05-2008, 05:13 PM
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Re: Ragwort - how serious?

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Very serious, it has a cumalitive effect, you must wear gloves when you pull it then make sure you take the pulled ones out and burn them as they are more likely to eat it when its dead, the councils in Wales do next to nothing to eradicate it.
Yes it can have a cumulative effect BUT small doses are unlikely to have any effect at at all.
It takes up to 20% of body weight to kill a horse and it has to be in hay which is why all the real experts say that it is rare.

The wearing of gloves is only necessary because some people are allergic to the daisy family. There is a story that has be put around to raise funds, it seems, that the toxins that affect animals can be absorbed through the skin. Very little is absorbed through the skin and it is in the WRONG FORM to do any harm. We know this because doctors have studied it.

The official guidance to councils is NOT to eradicate it. Another myth is that it spreads easily from roads etc. IT DOES NOT. Again we know this because plant experts have studied it. The details are on the sites that I provided.
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Old 17-06-2008, 09:00 PM
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Re: Ragwort - how serious?

Under the injurous weeds act 1979 people with ragwort on their land are obliged to remove it if asked, if their land is within a certain distance (can't remember what) of a field for grazing horses. If they don't remove the ragwort, they can be reported. If it still isn't removed within the time limit they have been given by DEFRA, they can be prosecuted.

Ragwort is poisonous to horses. It is true that most will leave it alone, but it doesn't taste as bad when it is dead/dried eg. in hay so the horse may be tempted to eat it. Horses may also eat ragwort if there is no grass, or much of anything else to eat, in the field.

Ragwort has a cumulative effect on the liver, meaning you won't know how much your horse has eaten until the horse shows signs of liver disease by which time it's often too late to do anything. Maybe it's not as bad as some people say, but it's not worth the risk of leaving ragwort in your horses field.

The horse that someone mentioned ate one mouthful of ragwort and became ill had probably already eaten some on another occasion, causing liver damage, and that one mouthful was one too many.
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Old 16-07-2008, 10:50 AM
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Re: Ragwort - how serious?

It seems ragwort poisoning is not as rare as it seems, 2 horses near me have just been diagnosed with liver failure and the most suspicious cause is ragwort in their hay! The stuff should all be pulled and burnt!
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