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Old 29-03-2010, 12:57 PM
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should i buy??? unfit at present.

hi guys went to check out a 13 yr old school mistress.

she basicly hasnt been ridden for ages! as owner gieven up riding so basicly gets the odd ride once a month if lucky.

i got on her and she was lovely and round, was a bit lazy considering they said she was forward going. but she also did a little buck when i asked for canter on the one rein. i noticed she did it with the other rider on too.

but we did have a little better canter onthe other leg.

now by going by what the owner says she done this when the (biginner owner) first had her but he bounced all over the place. then the ladies husband (novice rider) had been riding her last summer and they said she first does it when you start riding again but stopps the more you ride her.

they hack her in open fields and said she never naughter or anything even when ponies go on ahead in front of her.

i know she is unfit so do i put the small buck down to that or do i leave this one?

i was thinking if i buy her i woudl send her to a schooling yard for a week or so and have her looked at profesionaly. id also change her saddle, get her back and teeth checked strait away.

they seem really genuine so i dont think they would mess me about and lie.

what do you guys think?
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Old 29-03-2010, 12:58 PM
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Re: should i buy??? unfit at present.

forgot to add she was literaly brought in from field. tacked up and got strait onto. and it started raining.
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Re: should i buy??? unfit at present.

how exerienced are you??

i bought a very unfit horse and when he was fit he one day got one on him and almost killed me.

a week schooling wont do much..... id jsut walk away unless you a VERY experienced and willing to put a lot of work in.
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Re: should i buy??? unfit at present.

I personally would leave well alone if a horse is capable of a buck when completely unfit, I think its a sign of things to come. For me the only reason valid for letting a horse becoming unfit is if its been off work through illness or injury. Even top yards with 50 horses are ridden more regularly than once a month.
My gut feeling is it has done something and they are frightened of it. Obviously its your decision, but if i wanted to buy something safe and sensible no matter how old I would want to make sure it was fit. Its rare for an unfit horse to be naughty so its easy for them to fob you off saying safe and sensible JMHO
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Old 29-03-2010, 01:29 PM
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Re: should i buy??? unfit at present.

the reason she is unfit is the owner basicly bought a horse for his daughter and himself.

he works out of country 5 days a week so only came up to ride on weekend and has basicly given up. he hasnt even been down for past year (owned for 2 years)

couldnt it just be because she is unfit, unused muscles. not warmed up and maybe needs her tack checking? just possible reasons.

she is kept on a private yard living out all year around.

i am expeirened jus not with bucking. it was not a huge buck either.
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Re: should i buy??? unfit at present.

I always go with my heart, if you really fell for the girl and the price is right (and frankly it would have to be very cheap in this climate) I'd take the risk BUT only after I've had a chiropractor (sp) out to check her back properly. I'm sure if they are honest sellers they won't mind having her back checked.
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Re: should i buy??? unfit at present.

Why would you all leave if the horse put a buck it? Its a bloody good sign of spirit, you dont want a lazy old plod that plods along at snails pace. At 13 she should be in her prime and it sounds like she is. I would have her back checked out as bucks can also be a sign of a back problem. I had a pony here who bucked everytime the rider got on and carried on doing so throughout the ride, he had a S shaped spine which meant riding was painful.

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now by going by what the owner says she done this when the (biginner owner) first had her but he bounced all over the place. then the ladies husband (novice rider) had been riding her last summer and they said she first does it when you start riding again but stopps the more you ride her.
She cant be in pain if she stops. Like I say I have ridden horses and ponies with back issues and they carry on bucking and trying to get you off if they are in pain. Also I have a 17.3hh Irish Draught and he bounces around all over, puts the odd buck in just out of pure excitment.

What was she like expression-wise? Was her ears forward? Did you have to really push her on to get her to do as you wanted?
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Re: should i buy??? unfit at present.

it took a litle pushing to get her going btu to be honest i dont really have strong legs as im used to a push button type horse in which you literaly squeeze and they go. she needed little more effort.

her ears were back a little but not flat back. it wasnt a massive buck either it was more like bouncing. but one or two times i seen her put her head slightly down but it wasnt full on bucking. she just looked annoyed at having to go up that extra gear. she did it on same rein mind and didnt do it onthe other rein. she did it on left ahdn rein but not onthe right.

i mean the thing im trying to work out is.....

are horses more likely to put in a buck when asked to canter : -

1) when they are unfit? if yes why is this?
2) when they are fit? if yes why is this?
3) why buck when being asked to canter and not when walking, trotting, getting on?

i mean its strange when advert said. 100% geniune. easy in all ways. school mistress. ridden by novice. owned by beginner. could go further in right hands. why make out she is schoolmistress is she bucks?

and if i had a complete beginner bouncing on my back and bucked to say oi get off and it worked why not try it with new people or might have caused some damage or she thinks its going to happen every time? unfortunately i dont speak horse to find out

but if it is the case, is 13 years old too to re train?
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Re: should i buy??? unfit at present.

it took a litle pushing to get her going btu to be honest i dont really have strong legs as im used to a push button type horse in which you literaly squeeze and they go. she needed little more effort.

her ears were back a little but not flat back. it wasnt a massive buck either it was more like bouncing. but one or two times i seen her put her head slightly down but it wasnt full on bucking. she just looked annoyed at having to go up that extra gear. she did it on same rein mind and didnt do it onthe other rein. she did it on left ahdn rein but not onthe right.

i mean the thing im trying to work out is.....

are horses more likely to put in a buck when asked to canter : -

1) when they are unfit? if yes why is this?
2) when they are fit? if yes why is this?
3) why buck when being asked to canter and not when walking, trotting, getting on?

Usually its because they just getting back into the stride of things and some horses getting a bit over-excited. I have a 20 year old mare who is like this, full of life and bubbles and gets a bit giddy! They also buck when fit because of this. When horses go into a canter they usually but a buck in when they are ridden, if you watch a load of horses cantering or just going into canter, what do they do? Put a buck in?!

i mean its strange when advert said. 100% geniune. easy in all ways. school mistress. ridden by novice. owned by beginner. could go further in right hands. why make out she is schoolmistress is she bucks?

It doesnt matter if shes a school mistress or not, bucking is a natural thing for a horse to do wether they be 1 month or 30

and if i had a complete beginner bouncing on my back and bucked to say oi get off and it worked why not try it with new people or might have caused some damage or she thinks its going to happen every time? unfortunately i dont speak horse to find out

Horses try there luck.. they test you out its a bit like a child seeing how far you will go. I once had a 14 year old gelding here who used to throw everyone off, owners couldnt get there heads round why, back was fine, legs etc all he was doing was trying his luck, when he relised that acctuly no she isnt going to get off and stay off so he just put up with me in the end and he has gone on to win several shows and jumping tournaments. Its al about patience.. have you got it and will you get back on if you do fall off?

but if it is the case, is 13 years old too to re train?

No not at all, with the right work and in the right hands she will learn anything you want her too.
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Old 29-03-2010, 04:01 PM
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Re: should i buy??? unfit at present.

thank you for that. that was really good explaination.

my old pony bucked when i took him inthe massive field for a gallop before and he was stunning pony.

my isters horse has bucked a few times jus randomly and i trust him with my life.

i ride an american quarter horse every now and then and he puts the odd buck in here and there but i did excite him once and he done a massive one in pure excitement which i found funny.

i think its just going to be the case of trial and error with her. im never going to find out if i dont try
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