Another friend of mine just brought a horse was told been out of work no vices etc etc.

Well she took me out there today as she was sure she has laminatus and has had it before etc etc

well this poor girl had Laminatus and had it before the rings of eveidence is there she has had lamintic horses before as Have I we both have a habit of buying them! well she said she wind sucks too and didn't know how to stop it I was there for 2 minutes and the horse started. She was eating her hay etc while doing it so any help would be helpful

I have never had a windsucker or a crib-biter

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Firstly before i go onto anything else has your friend been in touch with the previous owner & told them that the horse was sold under false pretences ??
If it was sold with 'no vices' that should mean exactly that, no vices !

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Yes my friend has BUT lets say that the people didn't really care much about the horses. They are over weight, feet haven't been done in ages, teeth need doing, saddles are ill fitting, backs will need checking so I think she knew there would be something come up with them. She brought 2 from the same person. Mainly just to get them off her!

Both have laminitis, etc so she took the bullet so to speak

We now want to try and combate some of the issues.

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I used to have a windsucker he was AWFUL, i brought some like gel stuff to put round his stable that seemed to work abit, but i found the best thing for him was a windsucking collar, worked a treat on him x

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My friend has a windsucker. She has left him alone as even with a collar on he still managed to windsuck so she took it off him. He is alot happier being able to windsuck when he feels the need to do it.
I wouldn't worry too much about it if your friends horse isn't loosing weight through it. Hope she manages to sort out the lammi.

Windsucking is either boredom/frustration, attention seeking, a compulsion or easing pain of stomach ulcers.

I had an IDxTB and he was a CHRONIC windsucker. He did it for attention and as a compulsion. I left him to it, never did him any harm and he was much happier. He was furious wearing a collar as he couldn't fulfil his compulsion. (Like a heavy smoker going cold turkey!)

He was a bit unstable (mentally) anyway, so i prefered to keep him happier, let him do it and just replaced the fences often

When he did it, I used to tell him off or shoo him away from the fence, feeding his attention seeking side of it, so once just ignored him doing it, he reduced the amount he did it.

I hate the collars as there is a reason for windsucking, and it should be dealt with, not just forced to stop. have a vet check his stomach for ulcers, make sure he isn't bored, don't smack him/yell when he does it so he doesn't get attention and if he is still doing it, it'd appear to be compulsive, and let him get on with it. it It used to make me feel sick watching him do it but all vices do and they are all horrible I'd imaging if it is compulsive, it began as attention seeking or from boredom, so it's sad that somewhere along the line he was neglected of stimulation meaning he started in the first place.

I found that when Charles was out of work, he was worse, so maybe when the horse is bought back into work, his brain will be more stimulated and therefore he may stop doing it.

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thanks guys!

This horse is very stressy at the mo and of course having to be in becasu eof the Lammintas is not helping.

I will print this thred off and give it to my friend and i did mention stomach Ulcers to her as well as i found that in some research yesterday.

Fingers crossed its not!.

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Depending on the horse it can be better for them to wear a collar than not, even though it may seem cruel. My friend nearly lost her horse twice due to colic because of his windsucking. No problems now he wears his collar. And I knew of another that had suffered with colic due to her windsucking.

Some horses are fine but others it can effect. If your friend did get one the miracle collars are expensive but seem the kindest and best.

And yes as you say stomach ulcers can be the reason for windsucking so definately worth investigating.

It sounds like the horse has landed on his feet with you and your friend.

Windsucking is often caused by acid in the stomach and although things like collars stop the symptoms (windsucking), it doesn't address the cause (acid in the stomach).

I have a windsucker, and there are supplements you can feed to help - Wendals do an Anti-Suck and Feedmark do Settlex. I find the Settlex works better and it does reduce his windsucking but not eliminate it completely. However someone recommended Devils Root to me the other day as their friend's horse stopped completely on this, but I haven't tried it myself yet.

Other things that can help - feed forage feed (eg chaff based feeds) which they eat slowly, rather than mixes (which the eat quickly and causes more acid in the stomach).

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