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Old 06-05-2009, 06:03 AM
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Re: im thinking of breeding my 3yr old is she too young

well out of all my rider friends i only have 1 who weighs 8 half stone which i think is more than enough weight for a pony of this size+ tack and if all you know so much do you not know the weight rule 1/5 of a horses weight is enough for him/her to carry and an average 12h pony weighs 28st so do the maths and then see how many of these adults should actually be riding these little ponies
this is suppose to be an advice forum not critisism forum i said i have 20yrs experience riding etc but never bred this is why and only why i asked the question "IM THINKING OF BREEDING MY 3YR OLD FILLY IS SHE TOO YOUNG" nothing more nothing less
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Re: im thinking of breeding my 3yr old is she too young

Experienced or not common sense should tell you not to breed a mare that young. You dont have to have an adult it can be an experienced young rider at the end of the day this forum is here for advice as you say but everyone is intitled to give an opinion when it comes to an animals well being.
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well out of all my rider friends i only have 1 who weighs 8 half stone which i think is more than enough weight for a pony of this size+ tack and if all you know so much do you not know the weight rule 1/5 of a horses weight is enough for him/her to carry and an average 12h pony weighs 28st so do the maths and then see how many of these adults should actually be riding these little ponies
but weight depends on breed....a welsh type can carry more weight than a finer breed, i have a native breed that can easily carry 16 stone and possibly more

yay for weight carriers.
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Re: im thinking of breeding my 3yr old is she too young

Fillies become sexually mature at around 18 months old, and can foal as two-year olds. However, they are still growing at this age, and pregnancy may hinder their growth. Ideally, mares should not begin breeding until four years of age (to foal at five years), although some are put in foal when they are three.

It can very much be dependant about the maturity and breed of the horse. It is certainly possible to breed a regular horse at the age of 2 for a foal at 3. That is if the filly is mature and on a good plan of nutrition. She needs to not be too fat or too thin and should have a good source of free choice minerals, high quality hay and grain as needed. You have to remember that being in foal and growing at the same time put additional stresses on the filly.
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Re: im thinking of breeding my 3yr old is she too young

I dont believe any horse/pony is mature enough at 3 years old to breed from, i think its cruel personally and why rush them I know some people do though, its never in the fillys best interest.
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well the poor pony carrying 16st i say maybe it can but must be a struggle and far from fun both the rider and horse are suppose to enjoy the ride not just1 if the pony is 12.2 this is cruel and CROFTY SAYING YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINIONS IF THE ANIMALS WELFARE IS AT RISK OMG WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT A SMALL PONY CARRYING 16ST!!!!! and looking at some horses theyve foaled by3 so how can this be wrong if they was in the wild how many foals would they have by the age of3?? i am NOT breeding from our filly as she is now being ridden
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well the poor pony carrying 16st i say maybe it can but must be a struggle and far from fun both the rider and horse are suppose to enjoy the ride
take it you've never seen the weight carrying qualities of the fjord and highland then....

any pony that pulls logs all day in its native country doesnt struggle with a person on board.....and the fjord carried vikings....im guessing they weighed a bit lol

and connemaras carry flly grown men around all day in ireland

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well the poor pony carrying 16st i say maybe it can but must be a struggle and far from fun both the rider and horse are suppose to enjoy the ride not just1 if the pony is 12.2 this is cruel and CROFTY SAYING YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINIONS IF THE ANIMALS WELFARE IS AT RISK OMG WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT A SMALL PONY CARRYING 16ST!!!!! and looking at some horses theyve foaled by3 so how can this be wrong if they was in the wild how many foals would they have by the age of3?? i am NOT breeding from our filly as she is now being ridden
i care very much for my horses and there wellbeing is paramount
First of all please do not get so aggressive with your posts, I havent said anything offensive about you, no need for capitals

No i do not agree with ponies carrying 16st at all. Yes in the 'wild' ponies do foal early but they often dont do well and we're not in the wild!! Just because some cruel irresponsible owners foal their ponies at 3 years old does not mean its right. Im glad you've decided not to breed from her.
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sorry if came across aggressive not my intention i think every horse/pony is different and my filly is personally not ready for being a mum she a baby herself and acts it i weigh 16st and feel bad enough expectin my 17h tb to carry me around i went viewing horses with my sister and a lady told us this horse was 3.5yr 15h been broken for yr when we got there i thought he looked rather small but thought it was cos im used2 a 17h so didnt question it my sister got on then she said would i as we same height for a guide as2 what she looked like so ye i jumped on i said i thought he was a little small for her and asked if he had actually been measured she did it while we was there 13.2 i felt so guilty that id sat on his back could of cried obviously we told her he was too small for what we wanted but later that night the lady txd and said she had checked his passport and he was not 3 until sept so he will still grow if we was interested to me this is cruel he was 13.2 rising 3 and been broken for a yr she'd of done anything for a sale even if it was not in the horses best interests
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sorry if came across aggressive not my intention i think every horse/pony is different and my filly is personally not ready for being a mum she a baby herself and acts it i weigh 16st and feel bad enough expectin my 17h tb to carry me around i went viewing horses with my sister and a lady told us this horse was 3.5yr 15h been broken for yr when we got there i thought he looked rather small but thought it was cos im used2 a 17h so didnt question it my sister got on then she said would i as we same height for a guide as2 what she looked like so ye i jumped on i said i thought he was a little small for her and asked if he had actually been measured she did it while we was there 13.2 i felt so guilty that id sat on his back could of cried obviously we told her he was too small for what we wanted but later that night the lady txd and said she had checked his passport and he was not 3 until sept so he will still grow if we was interested to me this is cruel he was 13.2 rising 3 and been broken for a yr she'd of done anything for a sale even if it was not in the horses best interests
Thats ok, its easy to become defensive when you feel everyone is having ago at you

I still stand by what i said no matter how mature a filly looks at 3 years olf it is too young and i see no point risking it, it certainly isnt ideal. We have a 13'2 welsh cob that i ride used to ride im 5'8 so loved abit silly! But I weigh 9 stone so he carried me no problem. It does depend on the breed, your filly is a pony not a cob so she would not carry as much weight comfortably. Prince our welsh stallion is 14'2 and carries my 5'8 12st dad no problem at all, infact i have a video of him on here riding him. It depends on the pony and like you say a youngster who is not schooled and perhaps no as balanced needs a lighter rider, she just wouldnt have the muscle either.
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