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Old 02-04-2008, 06:29 PM
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Re: Hunting!!! What's your views!!!

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The fox actually died quickly however when it caught by the hounds and this has been proved by various reports into the hunting of foxes with hounds - I agree, it may not be the prettiest way to go, but it was pretty instant.
Fox died quickly when?

Yes they die quickly when caught but that doesn't mean they haven't been terrified and running for their lifes before that.

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Also in my experiances the animal in question didnt get very far,certainly not far enough to get exhausted.And it was very quick and carefully monitered.
Maybe not in your experience but I've seen an example of it going on for hours, do they give up no, they chase it until it dies of exhaustion.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:18 PM
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Re: Hunting!!! What's your views!!!

Almost all forms of slaughter/cull would be seen by humans as 'inhumane'. We cannot put hundreds of foxes to sleep - they have to be caught first, and to do that involves a hunt of some kind - or cages to capture them. We cannot leave poison down for foxes, because our dogs may have it. And poison is probably one of the worst ways to kill an animal.

What about population control in rats? How can we humanely kill colonies of rats? We currently use poison which dries them out - a terrible death.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:21 PM
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Almost all forms of slaughter/cull would be seen by humans as 'inhumane'. We cannot put hundreds of foxes to sleep - they have to be caught first, and to do that involves a hunt of some kind - or cages to capture them. We cannot leave poison down for foxes, because our dogs may have it. And poison is probably one of the worst ways to kill an animal.

What about population control in rats? How can we humanely kill colonies of rats? We currently use poison which dries them out - a terrible death.
True, but I think traditional fox hunting is going too far in the wrong direction, there may not be a completely humane way to do it but there are more humane ways.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:27 PM
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Re: Hunting!!! What's your views!!!

I have no problem with a fox being shot if on a farmers land, or one near, but hunting is just an arrogant and selfish hobby.... I never have and I will never agree with it.
Not saying that everyone who goes on a hunt horrible, but the hunt that comes past my house (I love in the woods) are the most cruel horrible bunch of people I've ever met, can't stand none of them.
Where I used to ride, a girl turned up in a t-shirt saying 'I hunt, what you gonna do about it?' its pathetic.
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Re: Hunting!!! What's your views!!!

Simply put farmers and the like now have to take it in to there own hands to kill foxes.

My family still allow fox hunting on their private land with horses and dogs.
a) They make money out of it.
b) Stops my family from having to possess large amounts of gun ammunition/traps/and spend a lot of time watiing for foxes to appear.

BBC NEWS | UK | Hunts hail Boxing Day turn-out
Shows what a ridiculous law it is and that it wasn't thought through properly. Where are all these "Campaigners" on boxing day then eh?

Now I don't like it but it's the country way of doing it and I'll protect their right to do it. Badgers have been more of a problem and they are protected species, not that that really stops some people.

On the slaughtering animals for food side of things. Free Range chickens are killed the same way as battery chickens. Tazerd then slit throat. Cows either have a lead bolt shot in to their brain or tazerd and then slit throat and blead out.

There is no nice way of doing it animals are here for us to eat, they have brains the size of pees, they aren't as advanced as us in their feelings and emotions etc.

I think it's a sad state of society when we offer more legal protection to a chicken or any animal than we do an unborn baby that is about to be aborted just because some dumb man and woman don't want a baby.
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Old 03-04-2008, 09:48 AM
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Re: Hunting!!! What's your views!!!

I think that hunting is natural and don't think any of it should be banned but it should be supervised so that people hunting don't over hunt? or possibly places where people are meant to put fish back that they do actually put them back. I don't know if that makes any kind of sense.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:56 PM
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Re: Hunting!!! What's your views!!!

my oh and his father both hunt alot they go shooting, but mostly out with the dogs not ours though his dads terriers and lurcheryme thingy bobs
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:18 PM
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Re: Hunting!!! What's your views!!!

I am totally against hunting always have been and always will be, and i live in the country, i really cant stand the snobby people that hunt one animal with so many dogs, put blood on childrens faces they make me sick, i walk a lot and its "open the gate you" by the riders no please or thank you , sorry to say i never do i hate what they do and also hate being talked to like im the scum of the earth,
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:23 PM
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Most of the people on a hunt are normal 9-5 people with full time jobs,kids etc.Lots of us live on estates not in big houses,and certainly couldnt be described as snobby!
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:45 PM
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Re: Hunting!!! What's your views!!!

Hi Clare, sorry i did not mean the whole country i was thinking about where i live and they really are the most ignorant people i have met , its just a small village i live in and they dont give you the time of day unless they need a gate opened or closed when your passing , and they are not polite at all, they ride over peoples land without permision, and often foxes end up in ones garden only then you can refuse to allow one in to kill it , i have my grandchildren here a lot and i really dont want them seeing that sort of thing in my own garden.
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