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Old 08-07-2008, 10:49 PM
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Re: Afraid of my 7 month old Lab.

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perhaps your puppy is picking up the fact that you are a soft touch...try being MUCH firmer with him.i dont meen smaking or anything like that..but puppies ARE like children theysoon learn who they can get the better of..when you want him to do something, use a stern voice,just like parents do..i hope this helps.
Agree with that, I think this pup has clicked on that when your OH isn't around he can get away with pretty much anything.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:10 PM
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Re: Afraid of my 7 month old Lab.

I sound like a scratched record, but dogs are never dominant over hmans. They are however, very good at training us humans to do what they want.

You will never be 'pack leader' but you do need to let your dog know that what you say goes. That means being consistent. If he is not allowed on the sofa, he is not allowed on the sofa. If you want him to get off the sofa, he has to, so never give in once you have asked him to. As you are scared of him I wouldn't suggest using his collar to get him off the sofa, and certainly not grabbing is jaw. In the short term, always keep a 'houseline' (a specially designed one, or a length of thin rope/thick string attached to his collar) on him when you are there alone with him, so you can use that to get him off the sofa from a distance if you need to, which keep you safe and allows you to be in control.

Then, I would impliment the 'NILIF' programme, see here:

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Then I would teach him 'placement cues' where he is taught instructions such as 'in your bed'. You need to do this by luring him to his bed with a treat, saying 'in your bed' when he gets there, and immediatey giving him the treat. You need to d this probably hundreds of times to condition him, then once he has learnt the command, when you say 'in your bed' he will go to his bed in order to gett the treat. Later on, you can reduce the frequency of the treat giving for th ebhaviour, so maybe one in five times. The idea being, when he is on the sofa and you don't want him to be, saying 'in your bed' will mean he goes to his bed. However, make sure you set him up to succeed and don't use the command to get gim off the sofa until he will do it in all other situations. Make sure the houseline is on him when you try it, so you can use that to get him to his bed if you need to, then give him the treat.

As an aside, in my opinion he is too young to be neutered. Also, neutering will pobably not alter this behaviour, or the humping, and may well make matters worse. By all means get him done, but don't expect it to help this.
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Re: Afraid of my 7 month old Lab.

Diotto Jackson - so glad I didnt need to type all that

ESPECIALLY about neutering - way to young IMHO - and there's no guarantee that it will help. Traing training training
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Re: Afraid of my 7 month old Lab.

neutering doesn't usually work if the dog is already showing certain behaviours. like mounting other dogs neutering wont stop this because it already been left to develop.

I dont know why people get puppies and don't know how to control them and still dont go to puppy classes. Even people who do know what they're on about tend to go to training classes to socialise the dog other wise they may possibly have a nervious or even visious dog on their hands.
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neutering doesn't usually work if the dog is already showing certain behaviours. like mounting other dogs neutering wont stop this because it already been left to develop.

I dont know why people get puppies and don't know how to control them and still dont go to puppy classes. Even people who do know what they're on about tend to go to training classes to socialise the dog other wise they may possibly have a nervious or even visious dog on their hands.
Agreed, 7 months is far too young to be neutering anyway.
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You will never be 'pack leader' but you do need to let your dog know that what you say goes.
there's no question about pack leader, humans HAVE to be pack leader otherwise you'll be walked all over. You HAVE to be pack leader otherwise how do you ecpect the dog to do whats it's told? confused:
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Agreed, 7 months is far too young to be neutering anyway.
weneer get ours done until they're fully grown, then again we only have 2 neautered males, the others aren't
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there's no question about pack leader, humans HAVE to be pack leader otherwise you'll be walked all over. You HAVE to be pack leader otherwise how do you ecpect the dog to do whats it's told? confused:
What Jackson means is we aren't dogs and they know that so we can't be leader of the dog pack because we aren't included in their pack structure. Humans are natural leaders of dogs but they aren't part of the pack. I think that makes sense.
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What Jackson means is we aren't dogs and they know that so we can't be leader of the dog pack because we aren't included in their pack structure. Humans are natural leaders of dogs but they aren't part of the pack. I think that makes sense.
ah okay, musta just got confuzzled
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sorry if this sounds ignorant but why do you think it is too young to get heskey neutered. I only ask as the Vet advised the sooner we get him neutered the better as if he's never had a season he won't pine for it. Please could someone explain?
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