Pup messing in crate!!

shelley · #1 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 01:04 PM

Help!!! We have just bought a springer spaniel pup, 8 weeks old! He is absolutley adorable! On the first day of having him, we had a few accidents but I have been persistent in taking him out every half hour or so and touch wood, for the past 2 days he has done all his business outside with no accidents.
My only problem is, I was given a crate to keep him in during the night and for an hour or so during the day if we go out. However, it seems the minute we put him in there he poos, i have put paper in aswel as his bed, but he ends up in a right smelly mess!!
I take him before we go to bed tr go out and he always does something and I dont make a fuss when i put him away.
Has anyone any ideas as to what I should do? I didnt set put to crate train as I really dont know how it works, just want to make sure he is safe at night! He also whines and yelps for a good hour when he first goes in and starts again even before light!

mrsdusty · #2 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 01:13 PM

Can't offer any advise but will be interesting to see what could be the reasoning behind ur pup pooping in his crate. I thought they were less likely to poo in their sleeping quarters.

shelley · #3 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 01:22 PM

Same here, I was told by everyone that dogs dont mess in there bed, obviously not mine!! lol

ladywiccana · #4 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 01:23 PM

Out of curiosity, how big is the crate if you dont mind me asking?

shelley · #5 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 01:24 PM

It is quite big, since looking on here I have thought maybe i should section it to make it smaller, do you think that may help???

Jem · #6 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 01:27 PM

We had this with shila when we first got her and hers was down to 2 things seperation anxiety and her protesting about being in her cage.
To be honest i gave up easy with shila because she howled for 3 weeks constantly at night so in the end she was allowed to sleep on the landing and we had no mess and no howling.
I hope you get things sorted hun xx

shelley · #7 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 01:36 PM

Hiya, thanks for the info, i know its only been 2 nights so might get better, just dont like the thought of him walking and sleeping in his own poo! Might try and hold off having him upstairs until im completely sleep deprived.

Kay2008 · #8 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shelley

Hello, Im new to this!
We bought a lovley adorable springer spaniel pup on saturday! He is lovely and well behaved (touch wood)! I have been persistent in taking him out during the day every half hour or so or after, food, drink, sleep exercise etc and luckily apart from saturday we have had no accidents in the house.
My problem is that a friend gave us a crate to use to keep him during the night and for when we pop out during the day, however the minute we put him in he starts whining and i always come back or down in the morning to poop everywhere, I think he only does one but then walks it all around the crate! I have no idea what to do, i dont mind cleaning it up, but it cant be nice for ollie to sleep in it all night! I have put paper in, not sure if this is a good idea or not? He does seem to get very distressed when i put him in and leave him,he goes in fine but whines the minute i turn away, I dont make a fuss when im leaving, dont say bye or night etc but he still goes barmy, whines for about an hour then starts again before light.
If anyone has any ideas they will be very welcome, I did not set out to crate train as I dont really understand the concept, just want him safe while we arnt watching him!

I'm not really sure what you can do exactly to stop him from getting upset when you leave him in there alone. Foxy whines a bit when I leave the room when she's in her crate, but within minutes she settles down to sleep or plays her own little game with a toy.

As for pooping in the crate over night, are you getting up during the night to take him out at all? I get up around 3 times a night for Foxy to take her outside for loo time so that she doesn't go in her crate. She hasn't done one poo in there so far (I've only had her for 10 days)... she's done a few wee's in there while I was asleep but that's it.

How old is your puppy? as we all know puppies can't hold on for long periods of time. So maybe getting up a couple of times during the night to let him out to do his stuff might help.

I also feed Foxy's last meal at a certain time of night. I notice that she goes for a poo first thing in the morning, in the afternoon and last thing at night.

Someone will be along sometime soon to help you out I'm sure! Great advice on this site

nici · #9 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 01:41 PM

hi, i would start by saying that a crate is a good idea keeps them out of mischief, and also your pup is only 8 weeks old and this is going to happen it will take time and patents i started crate training with my pup and he was the same but as he got older he learnt that wee an poo outside is good with lots of fuss and attention and no fuss from doing it inside, just give pup time and im sure other will have more advise for you.

in my crate in 1 end i put a fluffy bed and the other i put a newspaper but made sure there was room between the 2 and the bed was like a cave so he had to go in it to sleep maybe you could try something like that.
you could also try covering the crate with a blanket to make it seem safer

Kay2008 · #10 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by shelley

Hiya, thanks for the info, i know its only been 2 nights so might get better, just dont like the thought of him walking and sleeping in his own poo! Might try and hold off having him upstairs until im completely sleep deprived.

Oh I did reply to your thread in the dog chat section then just noticed it's here too!

Like I said in the other thread... are you getting up to let him outside at all during the night? an 8 week old pup wouldn't be able to go all night without needing to relieve himself.

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