re post# 51 - k8t

from the APBC -

oh, heavens, kate!

i am absolutely positive that if i went back to the very-first book we have on the training of dogs,
that somewhere in that book it would say, dogs need exercise...
dogs need consistency...
dogs need rules or structure or limits or however they term it...
and there would be MORE of the exact same age-old truisms that i and every other trainer have said so often, i swear we could recite them in our sleep... not that it matters, LOL, most owners have an incredibly hard-time getting the concept that EVERYBODY in the house has to NOT allow the dog on the sofa, and EVERY-Body including *Visitors* cannot allow the dog to jump-up, or pet them and coo over them for mugging them at the breakfast-table...

just because he says it, does not make it unique intellectual property -
99% of what he says that is true, as i said in my prior post, has been around since Socrates was in nappies.

i tell ppl the time, *a tired dog is a good dog...*
* start off as U mean to go on...*
* if it is true on Monday, it has to be true the other 6 days, too...*

all of them are exercise, structure, consistency.
given that i have been saying them since 1972, do U think i should take out a copyright on my intellectual property, hey?
heck, i should collect fees for infringement from Cesar, LOL...

off to consult a copyright law on fair-use...
oh, my - gotta wipe my eyes, LOL...
--- terry

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Hey

Don't 'have a go at me Terry', those weren't my words!!!.

As I have said before, I am not going to get into a debate about Cesar Milan and we are all well aware of your thoughts on the matter!

Kate

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re post #63 - k8t


i am truly sorry, kate -
i did not mean to make that impression at all!

i literally did think it was funny, that Cesar could be seen as the author or the source of those tenets of dog-training.
after all, i heard them as a kid from my mentor, who got them from hers!

i know that i read chapters of a French book (on training hunting-hounds) from the 1400s, and even that book had things in it that i use, as good dog-rearing or training. i was only trying to say that they have been around for a long time...

i apologize - i did not mean to create bad feeling.
sincerely,
--- terry

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Of course the majority and minority come into it. He is only doing so well because of his talent AND fame and the support of the MAJORITY

This is why the anti cesar camp are so up in arms. If he was a nobody and did not have so much influence, then these threads would not exist.

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DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME

Sounds pretty plain english to me

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www.dogsinneedofspace.co.uk

Then I guess there's a lot of people who can't read out there....

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re post #65 - goodVic


hey, vic! :--)

have U noticed that the overwhelming majority of Cesar fans and supporters are pet-owners -
not vet-behaviorists, not other dog-professionals?
a fan-base that is primarily the average-Joe or Jane is not a professional qualification, only a popularity rating.

by contrast, Tamar Geller, Trisha McConnell, Pat Miller, Steve White, Karen Pryor, and many other pos-R
dog-professionals work with Vet-behaviorists, and get referrals from them.
--- terry

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