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Old 06-11-2009, 04:38 PM
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Re: I worry about some people!

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In the eyes of the law your dog is off lead and therefore NOT under control. If there is a problem no matter how capable your child is, you would be held completely responsible for an incident with an on lead dog. Not your child, and not the other owner no matter what their dogs reaction was because if their dog is on lead under the control of an adult, then you would be responsible. Right or wrong that is the law. Therefore unless you can guarantee 100% when your child is walking your dog that he will not come into contact with any other dog walkers then I wouldn't risk it.

Your choice but in this day and age not something I'd do.

Alongside my own pack of dogs I generally have 2 or 3 extra foster dogs along for the ride, these dogs have come from back grounds I have no idea about and been subjected to god only knows what and I too would avoided your child like the plague and if came across him I would most likely have been as concerned as the woman. She has every right to be worried about her own dogs actions having only owned it for a short period and personally I think her actions were extreamly responsible. Lets face it we all jump up and complain about those idiots who let off lead dogs run up to our dog aggressive on lead dogs now don't we?

Maybe she didn't express herself in the right manner but give the poor woman a break and see both sides of the coin.


Hear hear. Sorry but if you can't stop your dog approaching another dog before it's given permission, especially if the other dog is onlead, then you SHOULD put your dog onlead until the other dog has passed by.

You don't know the other dog, or its possible problems/history and your idea of your dog "just going to say hello" is possibly the other dog's idea of hell. You just don't know. It isn't for you to decide whether the woman is overreacting or being too cautious with her dog.

I am certainly not excusing her language or attitude, but maybe knowing what you know now, you can prevent your dog going over to hers and if you can't, then that's your training problem, not hers.
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Re: I worry about some people!

I would never let my mother walk my GSD nevermind a ten year old

I'm glad the woman has finally realised that socialising her dog is a good thing though
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Re: I worry about some people!

I do have to say that I agree with JSR.

A 10 year old child should not be walking such a powerful dog. At the end of the day no matter how well trained the dog is, he is still a dog.
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I do have to say that I agree with JSR.

A 10 year old child should not be walking such a powerful dog. At the end of the day no matter how well trained the dog is, he is still a dog.
Yes, I agree with that too.
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Re: I worry about some people!

I think I once read somewhere that it is illegal for anyone under 16 to be in sole charge of a dog in a public place, but after googling I must admit I can't find anything to back this up. Has anyone else heard of this?
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Re: I worry about some people!

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In the eyes of the law your dog is off lead and therefore NOT under control.
This can't be right. On a public footpath your dog has to be on lead or under close control, which means it will walk beside you without having a lead on. Lots of working dogs are under control without leads, sheep herding for instance.
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Re: I worry about some people!

There seems to be some confusion here, perhaps I did not explain clearly. Jasper is an 8 month old lab/spaniel cross who is about a third of the size of a German Shepherd. He is strong for his size but is easily manageable. The woman with the large mouth was the one walking the GSD.

I did also explain that he had seen them come onto the field and then paid them no further attention until they passed very close and that when he did approach he stopped 5 yards away. He did not approach until I put him on the lead and took him right up after speaking to the lady.
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Re: I worry about some people!

I am quite sure there is no such law. The dog should be under control but does not need to be on a lead in a field or be with adults unless it could be proved that the dog had had problems in the past. I do think it is silly to make up laws and keep on about them.
And the OP was quite clear that the other dog was a GSD, not her own dog - and that it had not approached the GSD.
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Re: I worry about some people!

You said "if another dog appears he will of course go and say hello".

You shouldn't be allowing him to go and say hello unless you've asked the other owner if it's OK


ETA he may well stop five yards away, but what if the other dog's comfort threshold with other dogs is ten yards?
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Re: I worry about some people!

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You said "if another dog appears he will of course go and say hello".

You shouldn't be allowing him to go and say hello unless you've asked the other owner if it's OK


ETA he may well stop five yards away, but what if the other dog's comfort threshold with other dogs is ten yards?
I agree.

I hate it when other dogs come up. Staring and approaching is confrontational, and can put on lead dogs on the defensive.

Nothing worse than an offlead dog running up to mine, regardless of whether or not they come all the way. And then the other ignorant owner has the audacity to comment when mine growl in defense. Alfie is a fearful and anxious dog, and displays this by being vocal.
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