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Old 06-11-2009, 10:10 PM
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Re: Off the lead.......

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im glad it worked well for you, but please remember that she is part husky, and you could be playing a very dangerous game letting her off the lead. huskies have very high prey drive and when they see something and decide to chase you will be VERY lucky to get them back...

i have a husky and have let her off twice, 1st time she was a young pup and with another dog, who was older and had good recall. being a pup she followed him everywhere and it was fine, so we decided to try it without him ther a month or so later, she had grown up a bit and we now had no power over her, even tho we had been doing well with recall in the house. she saw a rabbit and chased it onto the train tracks (we thought the fence was secure... looks like some kids damaged it ) we managed to get her back but not thru recall.
she is now never offlead, and never will be. it is in her instincts, her prey drive is in her blood, its not something we can train out of her.

some people can let their huskies off lead, however you never know when they might decide not to listen to you. i recently heard from someone who had his sibe off lead for her whole life, thought she was 100% reliable, then one day something clicked and she ran, over a road and got hit by a car. she was PTS

i dont wanna put a dampener on this thread but please take into account the breed you have, it is in a husky's blood to run (for miles without stopping) and to hunt. do you want to risk her life??
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I know I need to be careful with the whole off lead thing, I am practising 'Tala come' in the house, garden, off lead etc. I dont want to risk her life of course not.

If she is never to be let off lead, how will she expend her energy? Hubby and I both work full time, she goes to work with hubby and walks around the workshop following him all day, but she still has energy, we dont have time to walk her 5 miles a day, obviously we walk her in the morning before work, around midday, then after tea, but they are only 30 mins walk each time. Weekends we could walk more, but in the week its just not possible.

I'm hoping the German Shep part of her outweighs the Husky with regard to recall!!

Time will tell i guess, but I will be careful and watch if she gets more confident with it.

Thanks for all the advice though

Julie x
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:56 PM
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After a 30 minute run at full tilt around the fields my springer comes back not even out of breath, After an hour walking on the lead doing training exercises - hes panting for a good period of time before dozing off. A good training session will always expend their energy as they are having to concentrate

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sound like she had a blast!

i would also sugest that you use a long line for training - just incase, it makes sure you always have control but she is able to have a decent run

i trained Zara on the long line - by putting the long line on her and when she wasn't looking i would shout come in a very exited way and she would come running over. i also used treats and i still do now and again - i also put my arms out when i shout come.


the reason i do it is for instance if sh eis a distance away and she can't hear me - she can atleast see me putting my arms out.

make sure you are always possitive when ever she comes back - even though she might take her time lol
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I know I need to be careful with the whole off lead thing, I am practising 'Tala come' in the house, garden, off lead etc. I dont want to risk her life of course not.

If she is never to be let off lead, how will she expend her energy? Hubby and I both work full time, she goes to work with hubby and walks around the workshop following him all day, but she still has energy, we dont have time to walk her 5 miles a day, obviously we walk her in the morning before work, around midday, then after tea, but they are only 30 mins walk each time. Weekends we could walk more, but in the week its just not possible.

I'm hoping the German Shep part of her outweighs the Husky with regard to recall!!

Time will tell i guess, but I will be careful and watch if she gets more confident with it.

Thanks for all the advice though

Julie x

she doesnt need to be offlead to get a run around, you can get 50-100ft long leads on ebay for about £13, which is fine for fields, im thinking of getting kira one, so much safer

and just a warning... you wont be able to tell when shes getting more confident... one day it will just happen, and by the time you notice and get your sausages out of your pocket she could be under a car (on on the train tracks like kira )

like i said i dont wanna upset you or anyone else i just cant see the benifits of doing this with the breed you have, a husky is not an offlead dog im afraid, so many people dont realise this or think theirs will be different....

sorry i just dont see why you would want to risk it, when you could jog round the block a few times or something, or have her run alongside you while you ride a bike. there are so many other options...
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You do not need to phase out treats. My dog is now 18 months old and he still gets treated for every recall. It reinforces your command and makes them want to come back each and every time.
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she doesnt need to be offlead to get a run around, you can get 50-100ft long leads on ebay for about £13, which is fine for fields, im thinking of getting kira one, so much safer

and just a warning... you wont be able to tell when shes getting more confident... one day it will just happen, and by the time you notice and get your sausages out of your pocket she could be under a car (on on the train tracks like kira )

like i said i dont wanna upset you or anyone else i just cant see the benifits of doing this with the breed you have, a husky is not an offlead dog im afraid, so many people dont realise this or think theirs will be different....

sorry i just dont see why you would want to risk it, when you could jog round the block a few times or something, or have her run alongside you while you ride a bike. there are so many other options...
why would you NOT want to let your dog off the lead. I am currently having to keep a dog on the lead. The first one in 40 years of multiple dog ownership and I do not like doing it but needs must. She gets plenty of off lead in enclosed places and her recall is 100 percent but I cant trust her in the open. But if you have a clingy dog that is not going to run off why ever would you keep it on the lead. I HATE seeing dogs on the lead when they could be running loose.
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why would you NOT want to let your dog off the lead. I am currently having to keep a dog on the lead. The first one in 40 years of multiple dog ownership and I do not like doing it but needs must. She gets plenty of off lead in enclosed places and her recall is 100 percent but I cant trust her in the open. But if you have a clingy dog that is not going to run off why ever would you keep it on the lead. I HATE seeing dogs on the lead when they could be running loose.
I have to agree fully.

I have been blessed taht my previous boy was an ANGEL in general, including off-lead.

My new baby is 7 months now and to date has brilliant recall. I hope we survive the teenage phase as NOTHING can replace the freedom of a dog running around no leash no nothing, playing on its own or with other dogs, or just running in crazy circles, sniffing where she wants etc etc. I am happiest when i see my dog running around free and I am lucky to eb bale to give this to her 2x a day, in addition to 2 on lead walks.
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do either of you have huskies??

are either of your dogs bred to run, and run, and run, and run... and then run some more for miles, with little food or rest??

have either of your breeds been bred for years to know how to hunt their own food and food for their trainers??

do either of your breeds have a digestive system developed so that they do not need to eat a large amount, or can go for days without eating and still run for miles??

are either of your breeds EXTREMELY stubborn, strong willed and independant.

MY dog is a husky, and the OPs dogs is a cross of this breed, which is bred for all of the above. I know why a husky is bred, and how close it still is in every way to the huskies bred by the tribes who used them.

a husky is NOT an offlead dog. end of. if you are telling me that im neglecting my dog of something and that she should be offlead, i will send you the vet bills when she is hit by a car, a train or another speeding vehicle.
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do either of you have huskies??

are either of your dogs bred to run, and run, and run, and run... and then run some more for miles, with little food or rest??

have either of your breeds been bred for years to know how to hunt their own food and food for their trainers??

do either of your breeds have a digestive system developed so that they do not need to eat a large amount, or can go for days without eating and still run for miles??

are either of your breeds EXTREMELY stubborn, strong willed and independant.

MY dog is a husky, and the OPs dogs is a cross of this breed, which is bred for all of the above. I know why a husky is bred, and how close it still is in every way to the huskies bred by the tribes who used them.

a husky is NOT an offlead dog. end of. if you are telling me that im neglecting my dog of something and that she should be offlead, i will send you the vet bills when she is hit by a car, a train or another speeding vehicle.
NO I do not own and have never owned a husky. I merely stated that when a dog CAN be let off lead -and only when a dog CAN be let off lead- it is a pity not to. I said I have been lukcy that I have been able to do so with my dogs, which automatically implies that i realise not every dog is cut out for this. I will also say however, that the fact that this dog is ahusky cross does not mean taht it is impossible it will have good recall. I am not saying whether it SHOULD or SHOULD NOT be let off lead, I was simply stating my opinion that off-lead is a different experience to a line, howvere long, and to jogging by a bike etc etc.
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I would do some serious research on the breed. I know that you have a cross but you will never know which traits will come forward. I own 2 huskies and let my boys off every time we went to the field. I always said their recall was fantastic - but one day something caught their eye and they were gone they ran for ages to a main road i had to get passers by to stop traffic so they didn't get run over.

Now, I have bought a pawtrekker scooter and run them on this and have extending leads - this is more than enough for them and they both love it

I've heard far too many sad stories of other husky owners loosing their loved ones because they thought they'd be ok - they are not like any other breed. If you don't take any other advice on here please take this - Please please read up on the breed and see for yourself that a reliable recall is never quite good enough for this hard to manage breed xxx
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