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Old 03-11-2009, 04:02 PM
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Hi, I am after some advice. My sister has a 4 year old king charles called pebbles who is a very quiet dog who hasnt had much socialisation with other dogs. Maisy is a 4 month old beagle who when pebbles is around just wants to jump and play with her but pebbles get very aggressive and growls and snaps at her. Neither dog on thier own are aggressive but they just cant seem to get on. We tried just leaving them to sort it out themselves but Maisy ended up with a chunk of fur missing! And today my parents insisted on having Maisy shut out when we were both round visiting which I dont think is fair . Any advice on how to help them get along better??
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Re: HELP! Making friends with other dogs??

I would not leave them unsupervised because maisy may develop some fear aggression against dogs if pebbles is allowed to be aggressive with her.
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I would not leave them unsupervised because maisy may develop some fear aggression against dogs if pebbles is allowed to be aggressive with her.
This is what i thought and i also dont want Maisy to become scared of socialising with other dogs, I want her to be friendly when we meet other dogs on walks etc. I dont want her to think its wrong to play with other dogs either??
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Re: HELP! Making friends with other dogs??

I would leave them to get on with it.

They must learn how to behave around each other. It is not like you have 2 dogs of different sizes i.e a GSD and a westie (for example) or you have 2 fighting breeds like staffs etc. Therefore I would not worry.

The youngest dog needs to learn respect around the older dog. Personally I think they will be good for each other. The only thing (and I speak from experience) that seperating them will achieve, is build tension and make it worse.

If you start experiencing fights or the behaviour gets worse, then you may need to consider a behaviourist.

One of the biggest triggers to fights, which we had was when humans were around. If they start then I would be tempted to leave them alone and leave the room. It is very, very rare that a dog will fight to extreme as one dog will usually submit.

If you want to speed up the bonding process then walk, walk and walk. By walking dogs together you are creating a pack. When you have this pack, the fights will stop.

Good luck and don;'t worry. You have beagles not pitt bulls!

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Re: HELP! Making friends with other dogs??

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It sounds as if the Cavalier is undersocialised with other dogs and therefore showing fearful agression, put this with your 16 week old puppy, who doesn't know how far she can go and you have a receipe for trouble!!

Whilst it is often a good idea to let dogs get on with it and sort themselves out, this isn't always that easy, it is probable that one of them will get bitten badly and result in a vets visit, however, what is more worrying for me is that Maisy who at 16 weeks in still in the imprinting stage, will become fearful herself.

Without seeing the dogs it is really hard to suss out what is going on, if Pebbles is retreating and trying to avoid Maisy, but having no option to do this as she gets launched at, then you are probably talking fearful. If the moment Maisy gets in the door Pebbles rushes through to 'sort her out', then it is more likelyl to be territorial.

If it is the latter, then you need to do lots of work with the dogs meeting outside the house, and walking on the leads together on neutral ground, walking side by side i.e. dog to dog is, as you have been told, ideal. When you go back into the house, let Maisy go in first, but don't let her get too over the top, which will aggravate an already defensive dog.

If it is the former, then you need to give Pebbles somewhere safe to go, where she doesn't feel stressed and therefore needs to react. If she feels safe she will start to trust Maisy and along with meeting outside when Maisy shouldn't be allowed to 'jump' her, then her confidence with Maisy will increase.

In the meantime, your little puppy, and Beagles are not the easiest of dogs, as they are boisterous and fairly strong willed, needs to meet dogs of her own age and learn how to play nicely, i.e. as soon as she gets too boisterious, stop the play and get her back, she will soon learn what is acceptable and isn't acceptable.

I know at the moment it seems unfair on Maisy to be shut outside whilst at the house and it won't help her not getting excited at seeing the other dog, as this will heighten her excitment when she does and it is not going to solve the problem, but it is very difficult for other people to see a young dog come into a house - a dog that probably they haven't 'bonded' with as yet, not as much as they will have with Pebbles - and see it as they see it 'upset' the older established dog.

As Maisy grows she will calm down, as Pebbles feels less threatened, he/she will accept.

At the moment they will be reletively matched if they have a scrap, but when Maisy is fully grown and Pebbles is still the same size, they won't be.

If things don't calm down, you will need to get someone to have a look at what exactly the dynamics are between the two.

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Re: HELP! Making friends with other dogs??

Thank you so much for taking time to write such helpful advice! Will definitely try and put your advice into practice!!
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