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Re: Fear aggression
I'm sorry but that's a load of bull. Have you actually ever dealt with a dog who is suffering from pure sheer fear? The OP has been advised to get a professional behaviourist to assess the dog which is the only advise they should listen to. THEN it can be assessed if the dog is taking the micky or terrified. 'Knowing you are the master' will do absolutely nothing for a dog that is terrified, my bitch is trained to an extreamly high level but when she hears a firework she knows NOTHING except the fear. She will burrow herself under the sofa, and for 25kg of dog that's quiet a task. Nothing and noone can reach her when her mind is shut down by fear. The dog needs quiet, time and certainly not some twit who thinks he's lord and master putting extra pressure on.
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Re: Fear aggression
Everybody thanks for the advice. I'm pretty sure that she is just terrified and not 'trying it on' - when she was a pup noise didn't bother her but having lived through 3 years of Diwali fireworks I can't blame her - around us (in West London) they go on for about 2 weeks sometimes from as soon as it gets dark until 2 or 3 in the morning! Hopefully not too many this weekend for Guy Fawkes though!
Her fear of noise has escalated over the last 3 years until now any loud noise seems to scare her stiff! Even to the extent that she now won't poo in the garden because something has frightened her - thus not going for a walk is not an option! Have managed to walk her morning and night this week - she is quite happy if I take her somewhere in the car and then put the lead on - but in the house she's not even keen on the lead - runs and hides when I get it out. As long as she has a ball to chase when she is out she doesn't seem too worried. Have tried a DAP diffuser which I got from the vet but that didn't seem to have any effect - so I think a behaviourist is my next step. Just not sure if a noise CD will work - she seems to know whether the noise is 'real' or not as she quite happily ignores foreworks/thunder etc. if they are on the TV. Anyway it was fantastic to have so many replies and suggestions ![]() |
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Re: Fear aggression
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Bella used to be the same as she associated her harness with walking and she is petrified of traffic. I used to put her harness on for short periods during the day just for the sake of it. She soon realised that the harness doesn't always mean a scary walk with scary traffic. Good luck, it can be very hard work and distressing when a dog is that nervous... ![]() |
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Re: Fear aggression
With regards to the harness and managing to get it on.
I would play a sort of desensitization "game" with her. If you clicker train I would do it as follows: Sit down next to the dog with the harness in your hand, a pot of really high value treats and your clicker. Push the harness out across the floor, click, treat, big praise, push it a little closer to her, click, reward, push it closer to her, click, reward, ask her to do a hand touch (touching your palm with her nose), click, reward, ask her to target the harness, click, reward, move it closer to her, click, reward etc... You don't even need to put it on her. But you want her to be doing little tasks involving the harness (targeting etc), so that she has to work for the click and reward. The idea is that once she starts focussing on working for the click, the fear of the harness (because she associates it with going out and fireworks etc...) shouldn't be so prominant. Hopefully she should make more positive associations with it too. Obviously though she'd need to know how to hand touch and target objects on command, so if she doesn't know them yet you'd have to train those behaviours. Hope that helps ![]()
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Re: Fear aggression
If you clicker train this might be a good thing to teach and eventually apply to the harness.
You'd need to start with non scary objects first though and work gradually ![]() YouTube - How to train your dog not to bark- episode 2- scary objects This video underlines desensitization to noises- you could apply this to fireworks and by using a Sounds Scary CD for fireworks so that you have control of the stimulus ![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp_l9...video_response
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As I have said behaviour is learned, as she wasnt like this when young - which means she will be able to 'unlearn' it by the owner addressing the issues. Edit: I have also said - there is no need to be puting stress on them unduely. Last edited by james1; 30-10-2009 at 11:56 PM.. |
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I think some people can really over-engineer situations when there is very little need. I also think some people seem to treat dogs as some kind of porcelain figure that is so easliy damaged. Its good that people think about their dogs - but you dont need to over think as you will be the one having to wonder 10 times about how to handle any given situation best which isnt productive. A simple cue should work 9 times out of 10 and this all comes from training and knowing your dogs signals - acting before anything gets out of hand. If you have ever seen the aftermath of a dog fight/scap the "victim" dog 9 times out of 10 will not be the slightest bit bothered - but it is the owner that is more shaken up, annoyed or worried. There are exceptions but after something so dramatic - desensitisation isnt even needed then! Things can be very easily over complicated - its the owners approach that is the key influence on how your dog behaves Last edited by james1; 31-10-2009 at 12:20 AM.. |
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