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Old 19-05-2008, 11:11 AM
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My name is wayne i live in London with my partner and our 2 sons (5 and 3 months old). We have 8 cats from 2 yrs to 14 weeks old.

I suprised my partner two weeks ago and brought home a german shepherd female puppy called Mya whos 10 weeks, My partner wasnt very happy as she wanted to wait till my younger son was around 2 before we even got a dog. Recently Mya has started barking in the middle of the night as she dosent want to be alone, we have tried ignoring her and leaving her with the radio on, she still barks waking our baby up and our 5 yr old tired for school. The last few nights we have had her in our bedroom and she sleeps straight through till the morning.
my partner has said she dosent want the puppy in our room, but if i put her outside she will bark the place down again keeping everyone awake, what can i do to keep Mya from barking at night.

Also she loves my partner she follows her around everywhere, my partner was ironing and she slept down by her feet till my partner had finished, she even gets onto the sofa and climbs herself onto my partner and sleeps, but with me she is really naughty and wont behave she will pee and poo everywhere but when my partners around she will do it properly and go onto the trainning pads, what am i doing wrong.
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Old 19-05-2008, 11:45 AM
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Puppy’s crying at night: sorry its so long
It is entirely natural for a new puppy to call out for someone to come when they are left on their own. Your puppy is just following its instinct, by calling out to you. If the puppy is very distressed and clearly emotionally upset, then suggest allowing her to sleep in your room, but within an indoor crate. Over a period of time you can move the crate in stages: I.E - the kitchen. The first thing you need to do is ignore her making noise and the last thing you want to do is go down and scold her because the fact that you appeared in response to the cries, will reinforced her crying instinct. If noise never elicits a response, then the pup will learn that this method of communication does not work. What never works is waiting whilst the puppy makes more and more noise then finally becoming annoyed or exasperated and going to the puppy. All that would teach the pup was being especially PERSISTENT really works! Punishment does NOT teach your dog to be quiet, any more than it would a baby crying. Punishment or anger would stress him even more and could create behaviour problems or even affect your future relationship. You can help your puppy accept the separation more quickly by introducing the area you want the pup to stay gently and carefully. Feed favourite treats in this area, if you are using a crate then you can leave a stuffed Bone or Kong in the crate as you go up to bed. Leave a radio on low. Buy a * DAP Diffuser to help the puppy settle in, and a hot pad which when heated for 5 minutes in a microwave stays warm and comfortable for up to 12 hours. Correctly introduced it speeds up the toilet training process, gives the pup a secure and comfortable den and a bolthole in times of stress. It can also be an invaluable asset when the pup gets older. Situations where a dog may need the ability to accept and relax in a crate include:
Recovery from medical problems, travel, emergency, and adjustment to a new home or a new family.

Obviously the best time to introduce a crate is as puppies. * D.A.P Diffusers: In mammals all lactating females release substances which are called appeasing pheromones, the function is to reassure and calm their offspring, In the bitch these are produced 3-5 days post whelping by the sebaceous glands of the belly near the milk glands. They are believed to enhance attachment between mother and pups and to reassure and comfort. As the pup explores its new environment it will come across new stimuli which set off emotional reactions and stresses. The pup reacts by looking for mum with her reassuring odour which stabilises its emotional state. Research has shown that these reassuring properties last well into adulthood. They appear to modulate both emotional state and social interaction throughout the dog’s life. The DAP Diffuser standing for Dog Appeasing Pheromone Diffuser is a chemical mimic of the mothers natural pheromone and is supplied in spray and plug in varieties. I prefer the plug in as it has a culminative effect constantly seeding the area with calming smells. I have used this with a previous puppy i owned.

you can also try a snuggle puppy, they cost about £25 and come in different breed varietys! You can now also get them for kittens too!
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Old 19-05-2008, 11:57 AM
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Re: New puppy

Hi,
Your puppy is not been naughty,she is doing what puppies do.
It's up to us to teach and guide them.

Toilet training - Puppies do not usually have any control until they are around 5-6 months old,they need to go out often,every hour,after play,mealtimes,sleep etc...stay out there with her and praise and reward when she goes outside.Persnally I don't like training pads or newspaper as I think it takes longer to train them,as you are giving the signal it's ok to go indoors.If she goes indoors,don't say anything t her,completely ignore what she has done and put her outside,clean the area with a biological washing powder.
We found by taking ours to bed with us and settling them in their crates also helped,we gradually moved them downstairs.

It sounds like your puppy is barking for attention, and if you are taking her upstairs you are rewarding the barking,dogs catch on to these things very quickly.You may want to just check on her,make sure she doesn't want to go to toilet etc...then settle her down and ignore her,if taking her upstairs isn't an option.

You need to be consistant,ignore the bad behaviour, reward and praise the good.It will take time & patience.
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Hi,

My name is wayne i live in London with my partner and our 2 sons (5 and 3 months old). We have 8 cats from 2 yrs to 14 weeks old.

I suprised my partner two weeks ago and brought home a german shepherd female puppy called Mya whos 10 weeks, My partner wasnt very happy as she wanted to wait till my younger son was around 2 before we even got a dog. Recently Mya has started barking in the middle of the night as she dosent want to be alone, we have tried ignoring her and leaving her with the radio on, she still barks waking our baby up and our 5 yr old tired for school. The last few nights we have had her in our bedroom and she sleeps straight through till the morning.
my partner has said she dosent want the puppy in our room, but if i put her outside she will bark the place down again keeping everyone awake, what can i do to keep Mya from barking at night.

Also she loves my partner she follows her around everywhere, my partner was ironing and she slept down by her feet till my partner had finished, she even gets onto the sofa and climbs herself onto my partner and sleeps, but with me she is really naughty and wont behave she will pee and poo everywhere but when my partners around she will do it properly and go onto the trainning pads, what am i doing wrong.
LOL Welcome to the world of dogs!
She is being that way with you because you are being soft with her! Easy to do i know, i've been the same with my boy until I realised what i was doing!
Hard to be firm when they look and wag at you isnt it lol. Just be the same as your partner and set some ground rules for both you and the dog - where she is allowed and not allowed, don't let her go somewhere one minute and not the next as this will confuse her! Dont totally ignore her she still wants play too but make it somewhere where you can all enjoy her! Listen to the advice on here, everybody gives good advice!
I wouldnt have the puppy in your bedroom though, because she is already trying to rule the roost by the sound of it! Just put her in her own bed and ignore her! Hard when you have a baby i know, but has to be done! I was lucky with my boy no trouble whatsoever at night!
Good luck with everything keep us updated as to how you get on!
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Re: New puppy

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Hi,

My name is wayne i live in London with my partner and our 2 sons (5 and 3 months old). We have 8 cats from 2 yrs to 14 weeks old.

I suprised my partner two weeks ago and brought home a german shepherd female puppy called Mya whos 10 weeks, My partner wasnt very happy as she wanted to wait till my younger son was around 2 before we even got a dog. Recently Mya has started barking in the middle of the night as she dosent want to be alone, we have tried ignoring her and leaving her with the radio on, she still barks waking our baby up and our 5 yr old tired for school. The last few nights we have had her in our bedroom and she sleeps straight through till the morning.
my partner has said she dosent want the puppy in our room, but if i put her outside she will bark the place down again keeping everyone awake, what can i do to keep Mya from barking at night.

Also she loves my partner she follows her around everywhere, my partner was ironing and she slept down by her feet till my partner had finished, she even gets onto the sofa and climbs herself onto my partner and sleeps, but with me she is really naughty and wont behave she will pee and poo everywhere but when my partners around she will do it properly and go onto the trainning pads, what am i doing wrong.

and your partner is with the dog more.
so you will have to work harder with the dog than what your partner does.
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Re: New puppy

You have already been given some great advice here and being a GSD owner of 25 years standing, I would just add that they are a very loyal breed, and will usually bond extremely tightly with their owners.

My husband slept with our puppy for the first three nights. Not actually in Luika's crate , but by the side of it.

You need to avoid separation anxiety, which can happen to any dog. I personally, would never have a dog sleeping in my bedroom, it is a personal choice and I have chosen not to do it. Why not buy a book on GSD care. Each breed has their own little foibles and it helps to know the signs.

I know I am biased but LOVE the breed and a well adjusted GSD is the best
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Hi – I am also new to this forum. Your thread made me both smile and sigh mya sounds adorable and sweet (no sarcasm there at all) all the issues listed are normal for this breed and very correctable

My sigh is mainly for your poor wife who has an extra toddler to look after on top of your two boys. Having a puppy is very much the same as bringing a new baby into the house and I would have been behind your wife on waiting till your youngest was 2 years as well. Lecture over

First off I would suggest cage training – put the pup in with an item of clothing or towel that has your wife’s scent on it, put a ticking clock under her bed – this can help as mimics human heart beat. Never found radios ever worked with my GSD. Now mya will possibly cry through the night for first few nights (or perhaps a bit longer as she has already learned that barking and creating a fuss generates results )never put puppy in crate for misbehaving she will associate it and hate the cage – not see it as her safe haven as intended. If her crying is a prob with baby – then perhaps wife spending week with her mom might be answer.

GSD are a breed with bonds to one person – this means when ever wife isn’t about she will fret – thus the toilet probs, poss destructive behaviour and disobedience. If you don’t already – be the one to feed her rather than wife – take turns and also get 5 yr old to do this too. Buy a few of her favourite treats – make her sit for you teach her to lie down – reward with treat – distract with toys rather than tell her off when ever poss. GSD are very quick learners and you will quickly find yourself racking your brains to find new things to teach her.

Do not be a softie and ever give in – GSD do not respect this at all – take the line – you do as i command or no treat – if it takes 20 min so be it when they get to the terrible teen yrs - for real bad behaviour (running amuck and refusing to listening etc) I have learnt that shutting them in the garden for 10min (they hate it) excluding her is a real good way and she will quickly learn to behave – never use the cage for correction – just for sleeping at night and when you are not around to keep an eye on.

Lastly soon as she has had her jabs and able – take her puppy training.

You will find with plenty of socialisation and a firm hand she will quickly find her place in your home. The great thing about GSD is they want nothing more than to please you and be loved – they are happy to fit in with the family as a member and make one of the best family dogs you could ever wish for.
Goodluck with mya – love to hear about updates on her progress.
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Hey Carol, he is doing really well (little sausage) Melody, one of our cats, loves to torment him though.

He can have his first walk tomorrow, but as you know, GSD's can only have limited exercise for the first few months, gradually increasing.

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