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Old 12-10-2009, 08:36 PM
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Re: please help my two dogs are fighting!!!

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Its up to you to stop the pup jumping all over her I'm afraid, it may be thats she is just fed up of his behaviour, many older dogs will repremand a pup, if it is going too far, but some do not know how hard to do this, a 5 month old fighting is not a good thing, IMO you should not let it get to this stage.

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Did you read my top post?
Before you post in future please read in depth.
what part of your post did I NOT read?

You said the pup is jumping on your girl . my respons was, its up to you to stop the pup from jumping all over her, you said your girl gets snappy. I said she may be fed up with his behaviour, as many older dogs will repremand a pup if its going too far, but they do not know how hard to do this,

I said that a 5 month old fighting like this is not good and you should not let it get to this stage,

its up to you as owner and trainer of your pup to teach the dog what is acceptable behaviour, if you cant be with the pup all the time and you dont like crates thenmaybe putting the pup behind a baby gate in the kitchen or something will prevent the pup harrassing your girl (who also has mental problems) and it wont get into such a situation that a vet visit is required,

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Old 13-10-2009, 02:48 PM
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Re: please help my two dogs are fighting!!!

Crating or otherwise separating could increase the intensity when they're back together.

Can you replicate the time when they start? If you can then a training exercise could work. Keep the pup on leash and every time he goes for her, use a stern 'no' and pull him away. Reward him for stopping his pulling and giving in to you. Keep doing this several times and hopefully he'll learn that he's not allowed to do this. Keep going several times per day if you can.

If he responds better to negative reinforcement, a light slap on his bottom can detract his attention enough to get him off her but if he's in an aggressive mood, this could equally lead to losing some blood.

Remember dogs right/wrong are different to our own and they need to be taught their boundaries very patiently.
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Old 13-10-2009, 02:55 PM
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Re: please help my two dogs are fighting!!!

you need to stop the one that is provoking it, give a push to the rear of your dog along with a firm voice everytime it happens. If the bitch cant settle it the biys either horny or doesnt respect her (girls usually rule) - if the bitch tries to get involved correct her too.... if they cant settle it by themselves then you must inteviene.
There are times though when he will try to mount - its only natural really (dominance/reproduction) so the bitch should get a handle on him. Springers are intelligent though so dont correct half heartedly, if they think your messing about or playing a game they wont take notice.
Try not to split every fight up, unless blood is being drawn or hes persitently doing it after being warned off by the bitch then id either tell them to calm down (saying basket or something) or let them work it out


edit ; just realised the boy is 5mths - this will be easy to solve, when hes being a pest pick him up and let him chill out for 10 minutes in his crate... he will be only playing and exploring what is right and wrong so you need to tell him now before he gets into bad habbits

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Old 13-10-2009, 02:59 PM
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Re: please help my two dogs are fighting!!!

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If he responds better to negative reinforcement, a light slap on his bottom can detract his attention enough to get him off her but if he's in an aggressive mood, this could equally lead to losing some blood.

Remember dogs right/wrong are different to our own and they need to be taught their boundaries very patiently.
Im sorry but slapping the dog is not going to do anything to alter the situation apart from probably winding the dog up even more? and may encourage the bitch to attack the pup with more intensity. taking the pup away from the situation is best, make the pup have a chill out time.

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Re: please help my two dogs are fighting!!!

dont think theres anything wrong with a light tap on the dogs bum in this instance myself.

Is the bitch speyed? you could be in a lot of trouble if she isnt...?
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Old 20-10-2009, 10:49 PM
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Re: please help my two dogs are fighting!!!

If your older dog has mental problems, was it the right thing to do bringing a pup into her life? Normally, an adult dog will use just the right amount of correction with a puppy - maybe your older dog's impairment prevents her for controlling her reaction.
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Re: please help my two dogs are fighting!!!

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Im sorry I dont agree with crating animals, especially dogs/puppys. As luck would have it either me or my husband is always home to be with one of them at the moment.
Generally neither do I agree with crating, BUT, sometimes it is the only option, BUT, I do not see this as being the cure here!. One of the most common problems with fighting is because the younger dog will not 'let up' on the older dog! If you do not nip this in the bud now you could end up with an agressive male that will be difficult to handle in years to come. It is not clear what other steps you are taking to control this as you say the bitch is not 'putting' the pup in it's place. Maybe she is submissive ?? In which case you need to be firm with the pup, he needs to know this behaviour is not acceptable.
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Old 21-10-2009, 09:19 AM
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Re: please help my two dogs are fighting!!!

what kind of training are you doing with your pup? And how does he behave with other adult dogs when out on walks? The best training for a pup is given by an adult patient dog, they need to be told off in the right way, generally a snarl, which is what your bitch does, him not taking notice of it will escalate to her increasing intensity, but the fact that he will fight back means you might end up with a problem later on. At 5 months he can still learn manners quite easily, but perhaps you nitch is not the right dog.

You knew you would have to put the work in when you took a young puppy with a dog with mental problems. Puppies are generally hyper and a baby gate will help your bitch have some peace and be able to still see eachother and greet eachother.

Do you walk them together? How are they when out?
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Re: please help my two dogs are fighting!!!

You are not alone here i have problems with one of mine too.
Hunny B thinks she is Queen B and is trying to take the top dog postition away from the alpha male.
She corners him and then they grumble and each other,they they start going at each other.
I used to get really worried about this but now they just seem to sort it out themselves.
Now Hunny B with surrender to the male,but sometimes she still likes to have a little grumble.
I am sure things will calm down soon,i bet your puppy is just trying to push all the wrong buttons with your older dog.
Good luck and take all the advice you can get as it may help.
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Old 29-10-2009, 10:25 AM
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Re: please help my two dogs are fighting!!!

Hello

First of all, I hope you did everything possible to find the owners of the "stray". There are not an abundance of them around so its hard to believe no one was looking for him. Both dogs are neutered I would hope. Here is info from the bull terrier website. "If you don't want to deal with... Vigorous exercise requirements Rowdiness, exuberant jumping, and a tendency to play rough Destructiveness when bored or left alone too much Aggression or fearfulness toward people in some lines, or when not socialized enough Aggression toward other animals Strong-willed mind of his own, requiring a confident owner who can take charge Shedding Serious health problems Legal liabilities (public perception, future breed bans, insurance problems, increased chance of lawsuits) An English Bull Terrier or Miniature Bull Terrier may not be right for you". These dogs should be crated when you are not there. The bully breeds are often not good with other dogs.

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