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Old 11-10-2009, 12:59 AM
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Feedback on PetSafe e-collar

Hello people! I have a 2 years old and some months female labrador and although I was against using an e-collar, I must say this has done a really excellent job.
The problem with her was that she was eating everything from the ground once she was off the leash. Now she doesnt anymore. And I dont really have to press the button for the static.Just the noise button and thats it.Even when the static is required then just the 1st level out of the 8 works.I am thrilled. Just a feedback for those who think about it.
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Hopefully they'll be banned soon!
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:28 AM
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Re: Feedback on PetSafe e-collar

I dont see any reason why they should be banned. When they are used correctly they are great tools. And for my lab instead of her eating some poison off the street I would rather correct her with the collar. And like I said only the sound button is enough. And there is no change in her behaviour or character.
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:34 AM
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I dont see any reason why they should be banned. When they are used correctly they are great tools. And for my lab instead of her eating some poison off the street I would rather correct her with the collar. And like I said only the sound button is enough. And there is no change in her behaviour or character.
No, when they're used correctly they're pointless, you may as well train positvely, you could get the same results with reward based methods.

When used incorrectly they're cruel and dangerous.

The number of times I've seen people saying they're great if used correctly and then go on to use it incorrectly and torture their dog really isn't funny.

You may only use the sound button (which you've made a big point about so I presume there's some part of you that questions the other modes) but many don't.
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E-collars are used by people who have small toolboxes. In other words, if someone is impatient and can't or won't learn how to train a dog properly through lack of knowledge, they are more likely to use one. Sorry but it is lazy training and does not 'work' long term as it teaches the dog nothing. Try not having it on her and then see how much she has 'learned'.
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Had you tried a spray collar? I used one of these to stop my dog invading football games. It worked really well when 4 years of trying to stop her using positive methods had failed. Positive methods don't work for everything - when the bad behaviour rewards an obsessed dog more than you can, you have to use punitive training to keep the dog safe. I think spray collars are not as bad as E-collars.
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No, when they're used correctly they're pointless, you may as well train positvely, you could get the same results with reward based methods.

When used incorrectly they're cruel and dangerous.

The number of times I've seen people saying they're great if used correctly and then go on to use it incorrectly and torture their dog really isn't funny.

You may only use the sound button (which you've made a big point about so I presume there's some part of you that questions the other modes) but many don't.
Thats very true what you say there BUT if someone wants to torture his/her dog they dont need an e-collar to do that, they can do it with anything if they are insane (a piece of wood, a rock anything!). You see my point? A car is also a useful tool but if used improperly it can take lives of innocent people.
I made it clear that I rarely have to use the static, and that at the lowest level, just the sound button does the work.
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E-collars are used by people who have small toolboxes. In other words, if someone is impatient and can't or won't learn how to train a dog properly through lack of knowledge, they are more likely to use one. Sorry but it is lazy training and does not 'work' long term as it teaches the dog nothing. Try not having it on her and then see how much she has 'learned'.
Caroline believe me I have trained my lab for everyhting else with positive method. But as far as eating from the ground (poo from other dogs, garbage) she didnt want to learn. Many times she used to find food and wouldnt come back if she hasnt finished it! And in this part of Greece where I am from people tend to murder dogs that are homeless by putting all kinds of poison in food..
As far as the try not having it on her point, I was suprised also to see that regardless the collar or not she now continues to behave correctly.
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Had you tried a spray collar? I used one of these to stop my dog invading football games. It worked really well when 4 years of trying to stop her using positive methods had failed. Positive methods don't work for everything - when the bad behaviour rewards an obsessed dog more than you can, you have to use punitive training to keep the dog safe. I think spray collars are not as bad as E-collars.
I have tried that but to me she looked more scared with the spray than just the static and the sound with which she looked puzzled.At least thats what I see in my dog. I am not a dog behaviorist but I believe I can read my labs emotions.
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Re: Feedback on PetSafe e-collar

Glad you had success with it.

I have tried to spray coller, but they do not always work.

There are many traning methods that can be used and as long as the dog does not suffer, I am all for it.

Positive reinforcement is a great way to train, but not the only way. Although the way some people talk, you would think it was!

I have a dog who likes to chase horses, something which is very dangerous and restricts when he can be let off the lead.

I would consider this coller.

Don't worry about the comments you get back off people. Some people are way to pink and fluffy!
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