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Old 29-09-2009, 04:53 PM
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help, 6 month pup is attacking old grumpy dog....

hi could any one offer some advise?
I have a well socialised 6 month female terrier pup, loves all dogs, except my grandas grumpy, not very well socialsed 16year old dog. To begin with they got on ok, with the old dog growling if she came too near and snarling if she was too bosterious. I keep them seperated most of the time, as he is really not too keen on all her energy and she teases him too much trying to play with him.
she is normally a extremely submissive bitch but recently she has begun jumping the old dog and biting his neck, with her legs on his back, its really upsetting seeing an otherwise good natured and social animal acting this way.
i have not seen her even attempt to do this to another dog... can any one help me?
should i just not allow them to be together ever?
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Re: help, 6 month pup is attacking old grumpy dog....

Keep them apart. The older dog deserves some peace and quiet, especially at that age.

Must be horrible to be leapt on, harassed and mauled by a youngester. The old one may be feeling sore or painful.

When they are together, place your younger one on a leadd so that you can prevent her from being a pain.
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Re: help, 6 month pup is attacking old grumpy dog....

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im affraid your young pup is starting to dominate the older dog you need to establish rules, boundries,limitations for what this young pup can and cant do. If you let him get away with playing that way now you could end up with a problem at a later date, remember always correct calmly dogs DO NOT FOLLOW UNSTABILITY if you require any help check out my link
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Re: help, 6 month pup is attacking old grumpy dog....

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im affraid your young pup is starting to dominate the older dog you need to establish rules, boundries,limitations for what this young pup can and cant do. If you let him get away with playing that way now you could end up with a problem at a later date, remember always correct calmly dogs DO NOT FOLLOW UNSTABILITY if you require any help check out my link
I'm not sure at 6 months it's entirely down to dominance - obviously it's hard to tell without being in the room, but from the sound of your post it's more likely the pup wants to play and the older dog is not interested - maybe for the reasons some of the previous posters have stated - or maybe as you say it's just grumpy

For now I would recommend separating them as others have said, as the pup gets older and they get to know each other better things will settle. How often do they see each other?
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Re: help, 6 month pup is attacking old grumpy dog....

Seperate them makes no difference if the pup is asserting itself or not a 16 year old dog has earned its right to be grumpy and have peace and quiet IMO, the older dog has obviously made it point that is dosnt want harrasing so just seperate them.

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Re: help, 6 month pup is attacking old grumpy dog....

thanks, i will def continue keeping them seprate from now one and ignore my grandads hope that they should 'get on' with each other...
as she has never shown even the tinist bit of dominance over any other dog or any other animal maybe it it extreme playfullness, but you are all right that is is NOT fair on the old boy.
thanks for your help, I am sure i will be asking for more help in the future with my very bouncy stubborn and beautiful lakeland/ patterdale pup!!!
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Old 29-09-2009, 09:21 PM
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Re: help, 6 month pup is attacking old grumpy dog....

they see each other EVERY day, but we have divided the garden in two so each dog has it own section, but they do have some interaction during the day and most of the time the sniff around each other and then ignore each other.... its seems to be only when one or both atre more frustrated or energectic or what ever then normal.....
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Re: help, 6 month pup is attacking old grumpy dog....

You have to back up the older dog not least to let the pup know that you mean no when you say no but also to let her understand that all dogs arent play things. Monitor her behviour very closely and stopping it at the first sign will make things a lot easier, an old dog deserves a little peace and quiet especially if it not used to others.
Dont make seperating them exciting, be direct and firm, send her away - give her a warning command if she ignores you - which if she does, put her on a lead and have her sit, only let her off when shes calmed some and not before. I doubt whether distracting her will work that much as hes a new thing to explore and if your visiting you dont really want to be playing or moving about to keep her attention, you want to enjoy your family

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Old 30-09-2009, 07:34 AM
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Re: help, 6 month pup is attacking old grumpy dog....

I think your pup is just comfortable with the older dog as they see each other so much, she is just taking a few liberties that she wouldn't take with a stranger
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Old 30-09-2009, 08:25 AM
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Re: help, 6 month pup is attacking old grumpy dog....

hi my old boy dog who we lost last year hated pups and young dogs.
he had sore legs and aches and pains and needed just to concentrate on himself.i think old dogs should have the same respect as any old person.
a warm bed,kindness, a cuddle here and there and reasurance.
not some yobbo type adolecant jumping all over them.
i think that is just comon sense.
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