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Old 07-09-2009, 09:07 AM
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Re: The fine line....

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Ahhhhh i see the confusion.

I use the word "No" someone else may use "uh uh" it's the same thing isn't it

I agree it's about interuppting the behaviour which tells the dog that behvaiour is unwanted which is why i say about knowing your dog so you can interrupt at the earliest moment therefore requiring the softest form of reprimand (vocal reprimand that is, just to be clear) .

And no dog should ever be trusted round children 100% wether it has shown aggresion or not more because children can't be trusted than the dog in my experience


Obviously i take extra care because of the behaviour Oscar has displayed in the past but i would take that care with any dog now as behaviours can develop out of nowhere. A bullet proof dog with a grass seed embedded in it's ear that gets missed for a day or so could be lethal.
Yes, I should have been clearer - I wouldn't trust any dog 100% with children. My dogs are soft as the proverbial - but if I'm not around, or the kids get rowdy, the dogs get put away in their room. The kids know how to treat dogs but they ARE kids and if they're running about I just won't risk them falling over on top of a dog or whatever.

The stupidest thing I ever read was on another forum (non-dog related) where a woman was saying how placid her dog is, and how it puts up with her toddler pulling its ears/hanging onto its tail etc. When I told her that was a bit risky, she took great pains to tell me how it was OK because their lounge is very small and if it snapped, she was only feet away and so would be able to stop it happening. Yeah, right.... you're quicker than a dog. And your lounge being small actually prevents the dog putting distance between itself and the toddler if it wanted to, so that's even worse. Hey ho

IMO, if a dog has been known to be properly aggressive to kids it should be prevented from mixing with kids full stop. If that means rehoming, so be it.
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Old 07-09-2009, 10:37 AM
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Re: The fine line....

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Yes, I should have been clearer - I wouldn't trust any dog 100% with children. My dogs are soft as the proverbial - but if I'm not around, or the kids get rowdy, the dogs get put away in their room. The kids know how to treat dogs but they ARE kids and if they're running about I just won't risk them falling over on top of a dog or whatever.

The stupidest thing I ever read was on another forum (non-dog related) where a woman was saying how placid her dog is, and how it puts up with her toddler pulling its ears/hanging onto its tail etc. When I told her that was a bit risky, she took great pains to tell me how it was OK because their lounge is very small and if it snapped, she was only feet away and so would be able to stop it happening. Yeah, right.... you're quicker than a dog. And your lounge being small actually prevents the dog putting distance between itself and the toddler if it wanted to, so that's even worse. Hey ho

IMO, if a dog has been known to be properly aggressive to kids it should be prevented from mixing with kids full stop. If that means rehoming, so be it.

The woman obviously has so idea how quick a dog can snap .

I suppose it depends what is termed as "properly aggressive".

Some people take on puppies and aren't able to accept the "mouthing" that inevitable happens yet some people are happy to keep quite "troubled" dogs round their nearest and dearest and do little to protect either .

In my case though i felt the level of aggression, age of dog and circumstances did not warrant re homing and believe me it was a discussion we had and was close to being a reality had we not turned the behaviour around.
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:01 AM
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Re: The fine line....

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Agree with all you've said, dogs do know the difference fron right and wrong once trained and definetly "try it on" from time to time, or simply forget from time to time a little reminder, not agressive but firm does no harm at all.
I wouldn't say they know right from wrong as they do not have any moral sense, but they do understand which behaviour you will accept from them and which you will not accept.
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:51 AM
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I wouldn't say they know right from wrong as they do not have any moral sense, but they do understand which behaviour you will accept from them and which you will not accept.
Exactly. Dogs don't DO "right" and "wrong".
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