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11-08-2009, 09:23 PM
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Re: Dog fight turned human fight, first ever sign of violence
If the owners are aggressive it seems like that's been transferred to the dog as well. I can't believe anyone would attack someone just because of a dog fight. I would also call into question the other owners ability to control his dog if it's going to growl and attack other dogs in the first place.
I would definitely report it to your local dog warden and possibly to the police as well as it was totally uncalled for. 
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11-08-2009, 09:31 PM
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Re: Dog fight turned human fight, first ever sign of violence
I think the assault on your girlfriend is the main problem here - definately report it. Dog fights are just that and the law doesn't really like to get involved, but assault on a human is.
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11-08-2009, 09:45 PM
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11-08-2009, 10:36 PM
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Re: Dog fight turned human fight, first ever sign of violence
If you've got witnesses, then I would report the attack on your girlfriend, there is no place for that in a civilised society (did you manage to get any contact details of the witnesses after the frenzy had died down?)
Pay extra attention to your dog over the coming weeks, this incident might have unsettled him and make him more defensive. Make sure that you have a good recall and that he knows to leave toys that are not his. I might be tempted to avoid using a lead unless you feel very confident when approaching other dogs, otherwise the lead will become a telephone wire transmitting insecure feelings from you straight to him. Play it by ear and call him away in good time if you suspect an outburst. Hopefully you'll be lucky, he might take the retaliation from the other dog as a warning not to be possesive like that again. Get straight back on the horse and show him that life goes on but you will not tolerate his outbursts.
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11-08-2009, 10:57 PM
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Having witnessed my own dog being horribly attacked FOUR times in 18 months by pitbull mixes I can completely understand why you were afraid to intervene. The hairs on my head still stand up when I hear any sort of aggressive dog barking, even when we are both inside the house as safe as can be.
I'm glad your dog is ok but your poor girlfriend must be terribly shaken.  THE BEST WAY TO BREAK UP A DOG FIGHT: The safest way to break up a dogfight requires 2 people. Each person grabs the back feet of one of the dogs. The dog back feet are then picked up like a wheelbarrow. With the legs up, both dogs are then pulled apart. Once the dog fight is broken up and the dogs pulled apart it is critical that the people do not release the dogs or the dog fight will begin again. The two people need to start turning in a circle, or slowly swinging the dogs in a circle while they back away from the other dog. This stops the dog from curling and coming back and biting the person holding their legs. By circling the dog has to sidestep with its front feet or it will fall on its chin. As long as you slowly continue to back and circle, the dog cannot do any damage to you. To insure that the fight will not begin all over again when you release the dogs, one of the dogs needs to be dragged into an enclosure (i.e. a kennel, the garage, another room) before the dog is released. If you do not do this, the dogs will often charge back and start fighting again or if you release the dog to quickly the dog will turn and attack the person who had his feet. How to Break up a Dog Fight without getting hurt
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11-08-2009, 10:58 PM
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So I'm going to keep him on a lead when I walk him, except when I reach some open grass parks that I know well where I can let him have a run around. Even then I will keep an eye on him and keep an eye out for other male dogs and put him back on the lead until it seems safe. I will tell my parents when they come back from holiday (I'm looking after house and dog whilst they are away.) Although the behaviour of the other dog's owners was outrageous, this incident has alerted me to the fact that I might not have as much control over my dog as I should, probably because he treats my parents as his real leader. If I feel patient I might try to get him to do some of the commands my parents have trained him to do, such as roll over and lift up his paw etc... Just to try and assert some leadership. Thanks everyone for the supportive comments, and the girlfriend is completely fine now, apart from some worries about the clumps of hair pulled out by the other woman.
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11-08-2009, 11:18 PM
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 As for the pyscho attacking your other half? Well, some people just have no shame!
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12-08-2009, 10:00 AM
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Re: Dog fight turned human fight, first ever sign of violence
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Hope you are both okay, must have been a horrible situation. Firstly regarding the dog fight, I'm afraid you are both as responsible as each other in this situation. Both dogs were off lead and therefore not under control so legally there is nothing that can be done or achieved by reporting it. I suspect your dog did provoke the attack by his body lanuage and your GF grabbing his collar would only make matters worse. It's an automatic reaction to grab the collars but not always the best thing to do as it can highten an already unconfident dog to a state where he feels forced to attack. Fight or flight remember is a dogs defense so if he feels he can't escape he will attack. But I would most definately report the attack on your GF, although I suspect it will be very hard to prove who threw the first punch or who provoked who but it can't be left and does need to be reported as those people are obviously thugs. Invest in a long lead (not one of those awful retractable one's get something more like a horses lunge rein), then you can let your dog have a run but still keep control. 
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12-08-2009, 10:20 AM
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Re: Dog fight turned human fight, first ever sign of violence
i am not a dog guru - yet
 but.....I would imagine your dog felt the tension/fear/anxiety in ur body as the SBT approached, therefore a growl of protection ensued. I doubt it was a possessive 'gerroff my ball'. Although, keep an eye on him for a repeat performance - then maybe address it then. As for the fight - welllllllllllllllllllll Report the assault to the police, a provoked slap across the face can result in being requested to show-up at the police station and cautioned - minimum. Unprovoked attacks may well be reffered to the CPS for their judgement on whether the case should go to court. I dont know much about the powers Dog Wardens have to be honest, in fact, i have never seen a dog warden anywhere ever - wouldn't have the first clue of how to contact one either - maybe yell.com  L x
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