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Old 09-08-2009, 06:05 PM
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Re: Serious whining at night (8 wk old shih tzu)

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Hi,

I have to say, your vets advice is a little harsh.

I've just replied to another post on here regarding crate training, toilet training, so rather than type it out again, I'll give the link:

http://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-training-behaviour/54009-toilet-crate-training-night-2.html#post870421


Hope this helps
Agree the vet's advice is a bit harsh.

Bear in mind that vets don't necessarily know much about training
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Re: Serious whining at night (8 wk old shih tzu)

I have a 21 week old lab and my sister who is vet and dog trainer moaned at me that when I put her to bed I must ignore all her cries and never go back to her during the whole night...even if she barked and cried all night...SORRY but I totallt disagreed with her....I wouldnt leave my children crying all night.... We took her out last thing at night and then put her straight into her crate..the second night I think she barked for about 5 mins then off to sleep.....in the first few weeks she would wake any time from 5am onwards...as soon as I heard her barking I would get up and take her outside and then once she has finished I will put her straight back in her crate...now she wakes up about 7am and as she knows I will come and let her out she only does this one yelp and then waits for me to get up and let her out.. ( at the start it would be lots of barking and yelping).... I totally believe that you need to get up and let them out but only when they bark to tell you..dont play with them etc..just straight out and then back...good luck
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Re: Serious whining at night (8 wk old shih tzu)

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Even at 8 weeks old, it's not to soon to start raising the food and water at say 8pm.
i thought u had to leave water down at night all the time - am i wrong?

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Re: Serious whining at night (8 wk old shih tzu)

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i thought u had to leave water down at night all the time - am i wrong?

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my puppy always has water ....morning , noon and night.....
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Re: Serious whining at night (8 wk old shih tzu)

Congratulations on your new puppy

I have a shih-tzu puppy and i only ignored his cries at night (though i only had 1 night where he did this) if i had already been down to let him up the garden, i ignore any barking other than the one that tells me he wants out, though he usually stands by the door if he does during the day.

He has never messed in his crate and im told by many that dogs dont normally do this as its their bed but i wouldnt encourage that kind of behaviour i mean you wouldnt leave a baby to lie in it's own mess and just cos it's an animal, doesnt mean it ok so i'd totally disagree with what your vet advised **shocked**

Good luck and enjoy him/her.. they grow so fast.
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Re: Serious whining at night (8 wk old shih tzu)

What I would suggest you is to get your dog trained. The best way to train your dog is to train it at your home. I know of one such trainer who trains your dog right at your home. They are Better Dogs. They specialize in Columbia dog training and many such services.You can visit their website for more details.I am sure they will be of great help. Kudos!
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What I would suggest you is to get your dog trained. The best way to train your dog is to train it at your home. I know of one such trainer who trains your dog right at your home. They are Better Dogs. They specialize in Columbia dog training and many such services.You can visit their website for more details.I am sure they will be of great help. Kudos!
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Re: Serious whining at night (8 wk old shih tzu)

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i thought u had to leave water down at night all the time - am i wrong?

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No, you're not wrong. Dogs should always have access to fresh water.
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Re: Serious whining at night (8 wk old shih tzu)

Dogs should always have access to fresh water but you are trying to train your new poochie, so why make it harder by letting him drink at night when this will make him pee
All of my dogs are now old enough to have the water left down at night but they don't drink it and they don't pee in the house. When I was training them to pee outside the water and food was picked up at 8-9pm. They were all dry through the night within a fortnight.
Your puppy will drink enough water through the day to sustain it through the night so you are not doing anything wrong by picking it up.
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Re: Serious whining at night (8 wk old shih tzu)

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Dogs should always have access to fresh water but you are trying to train your new poochie, so why make it harder by letting him drink at night when this will make him pee
All of my dogs are now old enough to have the water left down at night but they don't drink it and they don't pee in the house. When I was training them to pee outside the water and food was picked up at 8-9pm. They were all dry through the night within a fortnight.
Your puppy will drink enough water through the day to sustain it through the night so you are not doing anything wrong by picking it up.

Taking up the water will not teach him to hold on, which is what housetraining is. Not needing to go is not the same as learning where the toilet is.

Have you never woken up in the night thirsty??

Dogs should ALWAYS have water freely available.
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