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Old 19-05-2008, 03:23 AM
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Re: royvon dog training school!!

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I am amazed with this post. Dog training is all about the dog and owner working together!

This is a new one on me!
i too am amazed with some of the responses! i dont get the narrow mindedness off some people who don't get the fact that others can and do train your dog for you! why is it so difficult to get around... my dog and i do work together! it has bot affected the dog in any negative way whatsoever.

ok, i admit. not everyone wants to send their dog away for a few weeks to be trained. but when you're at your wits end because your pet is being so bad all the time and you dont know what to do.... tied in with the fact that you have a small baby in the house, what other options are there! i think its the perfect answer, they train your dog then they train the owner, everyone is happy..

all you posters that dont understand why we did it, have never been in the situation that we found ourselves and must have perfect little lives!

sorry for rambling, just sick of do-gooders little comments!!
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Old 19-05-2008, 09:12 AM
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Re: royvon dog training school!!

Royvon has two schools, one in Surrey and another in Wales and i have been to both of them. I am unsure which one you are talking about?

As i understand the trainers have up to 10 dogs each month which each dog must get trained three times a day and they have a diffiuclt time getting a chance to speak with all the owners on a regular basis.

I believe that having your dog trained while you are holiday is a good thing, however i think that the owner should have one to ones with a trainer to understand the reasons why their dog is misbehaving or why they have behavioural issues. Residential training does not suit every dog, but if the owner has covered all other options, one to one training, home consultation with a behaviourist, more than one trainers opinion, maybe nutrutional advice then as a last attempt send the dog away.

If you are unhappy with the service, make yourself heard and let the manager and trainer know that you are not happy with the service. Telephone and email, unless you say something they are not going to know that you are unhappy. Hope this helps.
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Re: royvon dog training school!!

I think you are referring to me when you quote 'do gooders', so please afford me the courtesy of a reply.

I was not being derisory at all with my remark, just that training usually consists of the owner with their dog. I personally, have not heard of sending a dog away to be trained.

I should also stress, that my third GSD was extremely difficult to handle when young, so I do sympathise if you are having problems. The point of training is that the trainer can help both you and the dog with any problems and show you how to address them.

I am sorry if you felt I was being a 'do gooder', since I was only trying to help.
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Re: royvon dog training school!!

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Royvon has two schools, one in Surrey and another in Wales and i have been to both of them. I am unsure which one you are talking about?

As i understand the trainers have up to 10 dogs each month which each dog must get trained three times a day and they have a diffiuclt time getting a chance to speak with all the owners on a regular basis.

I believe that having your dog trained while you are holiday is a good thing, however i think that the owner should have one to ones with a trainer to understand the reasons why their dog is misbehaving or why they have behavioural issues. Residential training does not suit every dog, but if the owner has covered all other options, one to one training, home consultation with a behaviourist, more than one trainers opinion, maybe nutrutional advice then as a last attempt send the dog away.

If you are unhappy with the service, make yourself heard and let the manager and trainer know that you are not happy with the service. Telephone and email, unless you say something they are not going to know that you are unhappy. Hope this helps.
he went to south wales, I think he was happy with the serivce he got, we were comparing the surrey to the wales and came to the conclusion they were both good. Altough I went to evening classes, no residental serivces so I can't comment on that.
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Re: royvon dog training school!!

My Dad bought an 18 month black lab that was already trained as a gun dog which was what my Dad wanted. My Mum has leukemia so trying to train a young dog would have been difficult. My parents have had dogs before and trained them themselves. Shadow was trained sensitively and my Dad spent some time with the trainer learning how he did his commands.

Shadow has been fantastic, has had his moments but then all dogs do. You have made a big effort to improve things so you can keep your dog, good on you and good luck.
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Re: royvon dog training school!!

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I think you are referring to me when you quote 'do gooders', so please afford me the courtesy of a reply.

I was not being derisory at all with my remark, just that training usually consists of the owner with their dog. I personally, have not heard of sending a dog away to be trained.

I should also stress, that my third GSD was extremely difficult to handle when young, so I do sympathise if you are having problems. The point of training is that the trainer can help both you and the dog with any problems and show you how to address them.

I am sorry if you felt I was being a 'do gooder', since I was only trying to help.
sorry..... please dont think it was aimed at yourself, i do appreciate that you were just having an input... there have been a few comments through this discussion that i have felt were a little unfounded and frankly "ticked me off"... but certainly not yours..
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Re: royvon dog training school!!

I wouldn't send mine away but each to there own and if it works that is all that counts.

I suppose some breeds can be more difficult than others.
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all you posters that dont understand why we did it, have never been in the situation that we found ourselves and must have perfect little lives!
I completely understand why you did it, we sent one of ours away a couple of years ago now after every effort to curb her aggression with other dogs had been exhausted. I didn't use Royvon, I used a lovely man called Les Price who also followed up with Home Visits after she came home
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Re: royvon dog training school!!

Well, I am really surprised that there are training schools that accept dogs without owners, and that it works without owner input. Just goes to show that you learn something new every day
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I don't know much about Royvon, But I can say our experiences with Les Price were very good we were invited along after our dog had been with him for 48 hours to see what he had actually done with her and how she was responding to training, it worked very well for us and her.
A different dog came home after she spent some time with Les Price, peace was restored to the household and now she can tolerate living with our other dogs and now responds extremely well to other dogs she don't know. He followed up with home visits after she came home to make sure we were happy and most of all that she and our other dogs were too.
If it hadn't have been for Les Price she would have ended up being pts as a very last resort because it was getting to the stage she was an absolute danger to other dogs that lived with us and ones she didn't know, as I said we exhausted every effort to manage her behaviour we initially got a behaviourist in, must say it didn't work for us she needed something much more intense than that, we knew what her problems were and addressed them, we didn't need telling what they were have a report written up on our dogs (all of them) and then told how to deal with it we were doing most of what was written in the thing anyway. When dealing with dog to dog aggression I'm not convinced having a behaviorist out to help deal with the situation actually works it just made our siutuation worse and on her first visit two of our dogs 'kicked' off big style and she didn't know where to put herself yet this was someone whom was from the list of acredited behaviorists I believe she made our situation much worse than when it first started simply just by being there in our dogs home surroundings, I knew it wasn't going to be a quick fix and she had more than ample time to work with us to help us sort it out until we realised we were just throwing good money after bad and really no better off with her involvement, like I say we were worse off before we got her involved.
We were put in touch with Les Price whilst sitting in the vets waiting to have her put to sleep after loosing another one of our dogs on his very table because of her an hour before this was still during the time we had that useless animal behaviourist visiting us, our vet pushed Les Prices number into our hands after seeing me and the family distraught and at our very wits end with her he knew we didn't really want to have her put to sleep but unless we could find something that was workable we really had no other choice, rehoming wasn't an option as she was too unpredictable with people she didn't know so as I said us sitting there was a very last resort but a situation we really didn't want to be in regarding a dog we had took on at six weeks old that at the time was very sick.
She poses no threat to other dogs now whatsoever, lives very happily with all of ours and is just happy to be I'm glad we got Les involved because she's still with us and is very happy, without his involvement she would no longer be with us I'm just grateful to him that he was able to completely turn her around and she's all the better for it. His training was intensive but in short bursts of time frequently at intervals throughout the days and time she was with him, we were invited along to see her progress throughout the time she was with him too he also followed up with home visits to us after she came home just to check that she our other dogs and that we were okay. The man was worth every penny and I for one minute do not regret it
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