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Old 28-05-2009, 08:40 AM
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Clicker Training?!

Not sure if this is a really big question, but could anyone explain the basics of clicker training?! And/or reccomend a good book?

My 19 month old bullie, is trained in the basics, but can be easily destracted.
Also I like to keep his mind active, and thought this might be good for him

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Old 28-05-2009, 08:44 AM
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Re: Clicker Training?!

Basically the clicker is a way of marking desired behaviour, it is very powerful tool but timing needs to be spot on! So when the dog offers the right behaviour its click and treat. I do recommend a clicker training class though, as we got so far with it on our own but the class just really honed in on a few things - and perfected my timing. As the click is what tells the dog they are right, and if you get it wrong you could be rewarding the wrong behaviour!

i.e. sit - you click the second the bum touches the floor, then reward but make sure they are still in the desired position when you give them the treat. It is also good to build up more complicated behaviours, like closing doors, by clicking smaller actions and building it up.

Buster is very easily distracted too, but when the clicker comes out its all eyes on me! and he will often offer tricks and behaviours to get the reward hehe.

A great site is Karen Pryor Clickertraining| dog training and cat training info, books, videos, events

Its a great tool to keep the dogs mind active, as you rarely lure or push the dogs into behaviours they have to THINK about what it is you want from them - this tires them out a suprising amount

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Re: Clicker Training?!

Hi,
This is a basic explanation I wrote in another thread:

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hello- clicker training is suuuuuuppppppeeeeerrrrr positive!

Have you clicker trained before?

I'll try to give you a brief outline.

Ok so basically. It is very much like standard positive reinforcement when you give your dog a treat for good behaviour but with clicker training you introduce a "marker" (the clicker) to mark the behaviour that you are teaching. You do this using a clicker- which looks like this



So for instance if I were training a dog to walk with a slack lead- I would walk down the road with a treat bag full of sausage or simular high value treats and my clicker. As soon as the lead went slack even for a second I would click and treat the dog, repeating and repeating this. Soon the dog gets the message that when the lead is slack they get a treat and so they re-offer the behaviour. Once you've got your dog with a slack lea you can then move it into having the dog on your left side in a close heel. Again you only click and treat when the dog is in the correct positive and repetition of this soon means that the dog learns to walk to heel.

I don't know if I've explained that well- so here is an article that explains the idea of clicker training:
What Is Clicker Training? | Karen Pryor Clickertraining

Here is a video that also explains the basics:

YouTube - An Introduction to Clicker Training

and a video with some stuff that can be taught by clicker training- although tbh the sky's the limit:
YouTube - Dog Clicker Training Demo

and a video on clicker training to heel:
YouTube - Clicker training a heel with a 10 week old American Bulldog

I trained my border collie from a pup and it seems to work really and we now apply it to agility and obedience training

Best of luck and shout if you need help
I advice a book called Dog Tricks by Mary Ray- it teaches you all the basics of clicker training and step to step how to train loads of individual tricks.
Also if you want to learn more about clicker training itself Karen Pryor's Clicker Training for Dogs is brilliant
Hope that helps
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i.e. sit - you click the second the bum touches the floor, then reward but make sure they are still in the desired position when you give them the treat.
No. No need. The click ends the behaviour. So - dog's bum hits floor - click at that instant - chuck the treat for the dog to chase and eat - dog is consequently up again ready to do another sit.
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Re: Clicker Training?!

Thanks for you responses, I think this will be perfect for Trev's, as he is a greedy little thing, so will love the treats, I've just ordered the Karen Pryror book.
Following on from this, my other dog is deaf, so I'm wondering if theres any good training methods/books for her? She is already very well behaved and knows a few basic hand signals, and will walk at my side, just like I said, to keep her mind active it might be nice for her to learn some new stuff!

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Thanks for you responses, I think this will be perfect for Trev's, as he is a greedy little thing, so will love the treats, I've just ordered the Karen Pryror book.
Following on from this, my other dog is deaf, so I'm wondering if theres any good training methods/books for her? She is already very well behaved and knows a few basic hand signals, and will walk at my side, just like I said, to keep her mind active it might be nice for her to learn some new stuff!

Thanks again for your advice

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Well, once you've got the hang of the theory of clicker training, you could move on and use it for your deaf dog - only substituting say, a flash of light for the click
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Well, once you've got the hang of the theory of clicker training, you could move on and use it for your deaf dog - only substituting say, a flash of light for the click
Oh what a good idea, thanks xxx
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Clicker is fab!!! I use it for basic training of all the foster dogs and my own pack. I've even used it on my horse and it turned him from a nervous creature into the people friendly monster he is now!!!
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Re: Clicker Training?!

Sorry to jump in and hijack this thread but I was wondering, do you think I might be able to use clicker training with my almost 7 month old boy who will not stop chasing the cats? Like using the clicker when he doesn't chase them or have I totally got the wrong end of the stick here? Things are pretty bad with the boy and the cats so I just wondered if it would be something to try with him?

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Sorry to jump in and hijack this thread but I was wondering, do you think I might be able to use clicker training with my almost 7 month old boy who will not stop chasing the cats? Like using the clicker when he doesn't chase them or have I totally got the wrong end of the stick here? Things are pretty bad with the boy and the cats so I just wondered if it would be something to try with him?

Any thoughts would be welcome.

Definately! I do suggest finding a trainer who will help you though. There are alot of places that use clicker as a method, it's not an over night fix by any means but it does turn the focus to you which totally will help with your problem. 'Watch me' is a big part of the early stages of clicker training and that's a great one for distracting them!!
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