Am just waiting for Tootsie to be sick - I hope. On our walk this evening she went off onto a boggy part and I went to call after her and noticed she had something in her mouth. I told her to leave it but she gulped what ever it was down and choked a bit on it. I dont know what it was but I hope she brings it back up
I have been full of cold this week even lemsip max strength didnt touch it and I now look like Rudolph I have still managed to paint my kitchen albeit very slowly Im going to pick my DD up tomorrow for the weekend so it is 3 1/2 hours each way in the car with Tootsie I hope she settles but on past experience it takes about an hour for her to give up whining and settle must get a water squirty bottle I have friends coming over on sunday for dinner. They will be bring their 2 little ones but Im sure Tootsie will be more interested in what I have in the oven to bother with them. She is fine with kids as long as they leave her alone so I have to keep an eye on the kids and make sure they dont try to stroke her.
Is it this weekend that you get to pick up Katie?

Hi TM

Yes l picked up Katie today. Her lovely owner had tied a deep rose pink bow around her neck. She looked adorable. I have the email of her owners and will be keeping in touch with her on a regular basis. Apart from the fact that the Mum is about 20 years younger than me - she is exactly like me when it comes to dogs. Her 2 little boys are booked into the vets for neutering next week as e this litter was a suprise for her owners!

I have posted in Dog chat with an SOS as ; thought l had got it covered with meeting the dogs up but both pups are not keen and Schmoo even snapped at her. Ironically my 12 year old has taken her in his stride.

I am on a bit of a downer at the moment. I think now that the dogs will be picking up from me that l am tense. She is so Tiny her tail is not even 3 inches long. She is like a chunky little kitten! i could'nt believe that Schmoo snapped like that - he is always the subserviant dog.

I just hope things work out alright. Annoyingly the other receptionist is not coming back to work for at least another week! That means that l am out all day for the third week on the trot. I was planning this week to try and settle Katie in and get back to some training with the mutts. Also the house looks a tip! I managed to get my sittiing room done while the dogs played in the garden and Katie slept in her cage, but my usual method of house work is too move stuff from one room to another! Tommorow the porch, bottom hall and stairs and top hall.

I hope you have a lovely time with your DD and your guests coming over. Has Tootsie sicked up what she ate? I remember when l took in my rescued GSD we had to be careful about what he ate. He weighed in at 56lbs which is shocking for such a large GSD. You could feel his bones on his back and when he scratched under his front leg - l swear we could hear him hit every one of his rib bones.

Well we took him out for a short walk as he was starting to recover only to find that he ran straight into the long grass and started eating something. You could'nt blame him after he had been starved. By the time we had got to him he had devoured most of the left overs of a KFC box that some moron had thrown out of his car while passing through the village. I can tell you l was so worried about those chicken bones but amazingly he passed them ok. His digestion system was alway dodgy so how he managed to survive that is a miracle in itself.

Anyway l do hope she is ok and that you are feeling better after your cold. Wish me luck with the mutts!

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I have just posted a reply to your new thread too but just to let you know that she wasnt sick so whatever it was she ate must have been alright - little pest Spent 8 hours in the car picking up my daughter and bringing her home with a moaning dog all the way there and all the way back - she probably slept for about an hour but the rest of the journey she complained. I dont know what to do about it now as she gets excited to go into the car and I have spent time playing with her in the car. She is ok'ish on motorways but as soon as I turn a corner she moans. I dont want to leave her for that long at home so I have to take her so am just hoping that she will eventually give up and just settle down. We didnt get home till 1am and I have spent today sorting out the house and buying food as well as running around after my daughter, taking the dog out for walks, doing the washing and also had a try at putting up our new tent just a normal day really - am exhausted but wide awake
My neighbour is looking after his daughters springer spaniel so he lifted him up to have a look into our garden and to say hello - lol. He is a lovely dog and I am really lucky to have great neighbours.
Right well I am going to have a look through a few threads on here and then try to get to sleep - I do hope that Katie is alright, she sounds lovely.

Hi there Kittysoo, how is it going with Katie? I hope she is settling in well now.

I have had Tootsie at the vets today. I noticed on sunday night that she was a bit quiet and today she looked a bit sad. She went into phantom pregnancy after her last season so I kind of knew what to look out for and I have caught it early this time. So £30 later, I have a tiny bottle of drops to give her for the next 6 days which should sort it out as she responded really well to them last time. I booked her in to get spayed but also posted on here about the cost as I was quoted £150 by my vet. Upon the advice from here I have booked her into Vets 4 Pets and they have quoted £80 - quite a difference I am going to be a nervous wreck when I take her into get it done though. My poor baby anyway she is being spoilt at the moment as she is a bit down and Im sure she will be spoilt rotten when she has the op too

Hi TM

Your poor little girl - bless her Its amazing how much the vets charge. I paid £104 for Schmoo (small dog) and yet his parents owners are paying £65 at the PDSA and that is for someone who is not on benefits. And on top of that spaying is so much dearer. It can be a real rip off!
Katie is doing ok despite not eating very much. I will post on dog chat soon with an update but she is settling in.

Amazingly Seiger is the best with her and Schmoo just wants to ignore her. She is trying to play with them and occassionally they will play back but they are so rough and tumble that she gets bowled over. I get scared that she might break something.

I had my late Lucy spayed after her first season and it was the best thing for her. Never had a phantom pregnancy though. You do have to watch their weight though as it does have a tendancy to go up. I wish l had been more strict with myself when it came to Lucys eating. She was always a foody dog bless her.

Anyway let us know how Toots gets on .

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Hi Kittysoo - hope Katie is alright? oh dear I have eaten far too much and so has Toots lol. I had a BBQ tonight and it has suddenly hit me how much I have eaten ( and drunk ) I couldnt believe Toots though - she actually played ball with one of my friends' kids who she normally tries to go for if she goes anywhere near her. This was probably because she was fed a lot of sausage and beefburger but she was actually gentle with my friends daughter. We were all watching very closely ( and I mean VERY closely ) as she has never bitten but has snapped at them. My friends daughter was telling her to sit and she did and then throwing the ball for her and she was fetching it - I know that sounds quite normal for a dog but Toots has never played like that before. Dont get me wrong I still wouldnt trust her and she will always be watched closely but it was nice to see her playing in the garden. So I am hoping that the training that I have been doing with her is actually paying off at long last. She is flat out on the floor - bless.
How is things with your neighbours? I hope they have quietened down a bit. Is your daughter home yet? I am off to pick my daughter up for half term in a couple of weeks but we are going camping for a few days near london before we come back home - all good fun lol

Hi Tootsiemum

So glad to hear that the training with Toots is paying off. Playing fetch with your friends daughter is a big step for her and l know what you mean that other dogs owners find that natural. Anything that my dogs do with other people is a big step for me as l know that my nervousness passed through to them. Just one positive thing and l can feel my confidence handling them get better. Mind you one negative thing and l am back to square one.

Amazingly l thought l was in big trouble last night as somehow Scamper managed to get through a piece of fencing into next door! Was waiting for the usual tirade about the dogs when all of a sudden HE called over "its alright my duck, l've got him"! I could have dropped down dead with shock over the complete turn around and then l realised that SHE the lodger's car was not there!
It was probably a tempory truce and he will be back to his (macho) self when she is about next.

Anyway the fence is his and he said that it beginning to rot in places so he will replace it soon. I have hedging on my side and so could'nt see where Scamper got through.

Now about Katie - she is settling in fine and although just a week older is running to me when l call her. She is a little biter so l give a little scream and then distract her with something else.
Yesterday she had her first injection and was a little star, not a peep. Licked the vets face and wanted to play.
My vet thought she was a lhaso apso pup and was suprised when l told her that she was Schmoos liitle sister!

All the boys want to play with her but sometimes they get too excited and rough and she gets scared, so l have to break it up. Yesterday after the vets we all went for a walk around the a couple of roads in Towcester and then a quick visit to the park. The boys were really good with the traffic going past and Katie observed from her puppy carrier and took it all in and finally dozed off on the way home. I had taken them all for a run over the hill before the vets to make sure of no accidents. All of them were really good at the vets and Scamper is definately a people person - all waggy tail and kisses.

Talking of Scamper - he has to be kept on a long lead now as his recall is rubbish. DH says that walking the dogs is no joy because of Scamper being disobedient and because Seiger piles in to play with him and breaks up him playing with Schmoo. He just wont let Scamper get to his feet and that is when Scamps loses his temper. We then have to put Seiger on the lead which is a shame.

I told Bob to occasionally call Scamper and then pull him in if he refuses. The first thing he did wrong is using the wrong command. I always say Come and he has started to use Here. I have told him not to confuse him. Also when l told him to real him in all l got from was - l told you he would'nt do as he was told and so on. DH has no patience! He also needs to imagine how he is going to handle the situation before it arises. I can see when the weather gets bad - he will give up on these walks and leave it all back to me again.

My daughter has moved back in with us and l am beginning to lose my sanity! DH +DD have one thing in common - trying to drive me to an early grave. If only they could unite in other things as l am beginning to feel stuck in the middle again. Nikki still has to clear out her flat and get it ready for the next occupant - ie: clean it!

Anyway must go now and do some housework before going to work. I am in the process of getting a few pictures together on the computer and then l will add them to my signature. I think you might be able to see them if you look in my album but l am not sure. I'm not very good with computers!

PS Have bathed the 3 oldest dogs but before that decided to clip Schmoo. I think we might have got a bit carried away as he looks a completly different dog and you can only recognise him by his eyes. I think we might have gone a bit over the top.. I will try and get the before and after shot photos on here tonight.

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Hi
If you go and check the history of the breeds you will see that what was the german spitz is now registered as German spitz Klein and Mittel this was in 1985. There were all bundled in together as pomeranains but the size differeances were too great and these breed classifications were proposed and accepted to protect each breed with it's own standard and i'm afraid your dog would be considered a spitz.
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In the meantime the three (Tum-Tum, Velvet, and Folly) had been mated with the Pomeranian breeds in the UK and also to each other, due to the KC registering them as Poms. This caused major problems. It was decided to form a separate club, after opposition to two sizes of Pomeranian by the small Pomeranian breeders and a decision was taken to attempt to get recognition for a breed separate from the Pom called the German Spitz. Despite revelations that some of the above mentioned dogs had in fact been registered in Holland as Dwerg Keeshonden which was in fact Pomeranians when translated and after lots of talks with the KC in the UK they agreed that there would be two sizes of German spitz to be called Klein (small) and Mittel (middle) and any progeny from the 'First four dogs could be added to the German spitz register. The puppies to be registered as German spitz who had only one of the four in their breeding would be put on a development register, whilst puppies with two of the first four as their sire and dam would be registered as full German spitz in one of the two sizes. The owner to decide which size. Once registered there was to be no interbreeding of sizes and an agreement was required that The newly formed German spitz club would agree to no colour/markings barred. You now have our present day German spitz in two sizes in the UK. They are gaining popularity due to their happy disposition and the high placings reached in both Crufts and championship shows around the country giving them a higher profile in the media. Challenge Certificates (C.C.'s) were first awarded in the breed at Crufts in 1995 and in November 1999, the club had its first Championship show.

Size:
Kleins 23-29 cms (9 - 11 ½ inches) Mittels 30-38 cms (12 - 15 inches) Dogs masculine, bitches feminine.

Pomeranians if bred correctly should be smaller than this, 20cm or 8 inches. and around 3lb-5lb for males - bitches
Zoe x
pommania poms

Hi Pommania thankyou for the information - I will have to try to remember to call her a German Spitz Klein in future as I keep forgetting and when anybody asks I just say Pomeranian its mostly kids that ask though so they are probably none the wiser as they normally think she is a Chuauha (sp?) Have you got any pics of your Pom's? would be lovely to see them.
Hi Kittysoo - how are your lot doing at the moment. Good to hear your neighbour is being a bit more friendly - lets hope it lasts
Toots is going to get spayed on Monday I am panicking about it even now as I have to take her on a car trip to get there so she will be in a state even before I take her to the Vets I think there will be a lot of threads from me next week asking daft questions about spaying and healing times they are going to clip her nails too while she is under anaesthetic as I refuse to do them after the last time lol.
Well I am still decorating and getting ready for next weekends' camping trip - fingers crossed for nice weather. My DD will be home after that for a week too as it is half term.
Right I must get off this forum and actually do something today have a nice weekend