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Old 03-03-2009, 06:50 PM
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puppy cries all night!!

hi im new to this forum stuff and to puppy life.
i brougt home my westie puppy on saturday and so far night are hell, she goes into her crate very happy at about 10pm and settles quickly but wakes at 1am and 3 am and then 6am,
do i let her out to pee ect or just leave her to cry all night?
im not sure what is best.
advice needed please

also any other westie owners??
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:05 PM
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Re: puppy cries all night!!

How old is she and what have you got in the crate for her?
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:56 PM
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Re: puppy cries all night!!

If i was you i would put a puppy pad (they are a bit more absorbent than paper) down one end and her bed down the other.

That way she can pee if she needs to. She should stop messing her crate as soon as she is able as dogs naturally move away from their sleep areas to mess.

Then if you can handle it go cold turkey. It took our puppy (we got him at 8 weeks) 3 nights to get the message that nighttime was for sleeping. We started off with 11pm til 6am and gradually extended it and he is now happy 10 til 7(ish).

I would suggest covering the crate with a blanket to make the puppy feel more secure and leaving a radio on low (talk show or classical is best strangely).

The alternative is to put the crate in your bedroom to reassure the puppy and move the crate downstairs when they have got used to being in there all night. This will take a bit longer but is perhaps a bit gentler.

There is nothing wrong with getting up in the night to let them out but you have to be committed to doing that more long term and she may suss she gets attention in the night by crying.

The first few weeks are really hard work but it's worth all the effort.

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Old 03-03-2009, 08:34 PM
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Re: puppy cries all night!!

I put my puppies crates in my bedroom so I could hear them if they woke up and I could take them straight out to the garden to go to the toilet.
They were not stressed and settled quickly, as soon as they were sleeping all night I moved the crate downstairs and they have been fine.

When I got Zipper I didn't want him in the bedroom as I didn't want him to get used to it and always sleep there - but he was getting distressed and having accidents - our dog trainer asked me where my children slept when they were tiny, I answered in my room, so she asked where do they sleep now, I answered in their rooms, - it made sense so I moved the crate and we were all much happier and less stressed.

It's up to you what works best for your family, good luck with your puppy.
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Re: puppy cries all night!!

hi i to got a pup which is a westie (x with a bichon), i got her friday and am having simular problems,tried the radio last night and she slept better but not sur eif it was a fluke,but she seems happier to go in her crate now,i know excactly how you feel im exhausted but also madly in love,lol x
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Re: puppy cries all night!!

Dixie used to go to her crate at 10pm, and wake to toilet at 1 and 4.
I took her out on her lead, let her do the toilet then back to bed.

After a good few weeks she started only getting up at 2am then she would sleep until 7 am.

If your puppy is young she will need to pee through the night as they cant hold on, and if they dont get out to pee enough it could make toilet training really difficult, once she starts peeing in her bed its hard to stop.

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Re: puppy cries all night!!

HI lottie is 8 weeks old and came home on saturday.
she goes to the crate very hapily about 9.30pm

so i guess i just let her cry and deal with the mess in crate if there is any.

my partner will NOT let her in the bedroom, but then hes not here at night!! so it not him dealing with the cying !

will try and do the ignoring tonight (and appologise to the neibours tomorrow!!)

thanks for the advice
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Re: puppy cries all night!!

No, whatever you do, do not let her mess in her crate.. if she cries, take her out to pee.. otherwise it can ruin all your house training.
Your puppy will see her crate as her wee sen.. She is crying because she will find it upsetting to mess there.

Once she messes in her crate, it can be VERY difficult to stop.

I once took on a 5 month old lab who had been shut in a crate for up to 20 hours a day, he was really hard to toilet train, he just didn't understand that he wasnt supposed to pee in his bed.. i ended up having to set my alarm for every hour (yes- 24 times every day!) and treating him hugely whenever he peed outside, ignoring him when he peed inside.. gradually I incresed the time between taking him out,, but if he was ever left too long, or had drank toomuch water, and if he peed in his crate i was pretty much back to square one.

It is a good thing that she cries to let you know she needs to pee.. Dixie now askes to be let out, if I am watching tv she will come over to me, then go to the door and whine.
She was pretty much house trained by 4 months, we rarely had an accident.

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Re: puppy cries all night!!

I have three dogs, our first one Sophie was a crier. She was crated, half covered over, toy to cuddle and ticking clock outside crate beside her. I was told never to go down if they cry. It took a little while but she did stop crying and she never messed her crate. Molly was quite from day one, as was katie though with katie we did leave a radio on low, none of them ever soiled their beds.
Try putting to bed as late as possible and always go outside and stay with them whilst they do their toilet and plenty of praise.
Good luck, it's all well worth it in the end.
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Re: puppy cries all night!!

Forgot to add.. if you take her to pee on her lead, and she is only crying at night for atention, if she goes outside and doesnt pee, put her back to bed. She will soon learn that cryin only for needing to pee is ok, and if she doesnt need to pee, just to sleep.

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