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Old 11-04-2009, 01:22 PM
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Re: Stubborn Dachshund (toilet training)

There really needs to be a support group for owners of incontinent daschunds!!
My 8month old has 2 meals a day, defo go with this as its much easier for them to cope with and they dont get hungry later on, usually at 10 and 5.30. If Im working nights I feed at 4.30 and dont give water after 7.30pm. A friend walks them at midnight and puts them to bed, in their cat carriers(just big enough for a little dog).
If Herman is still associating soft bedding with toileting then try a carpet square or nothing for a while, or you could just keep getting up to work out when he needs to go. Maybe a 3am pee break is in order, daschie's do seem to find holding it difficult.
Although Hannah managed to poop 2ft from the open back door on a clear sunny day recently. So maybe ignore me, eh?
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:19 PM
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Re: Stubborn Dachshund (toilet training)

Good points well made.

I might be wary of the 3am break though as he'll (maybe) become dependent on you for it. Just a thought.

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Re: Stubborn Dachshund (toilet training)

Hi all.

Again thanks for the advice... havent been on for a while so sorry for no updates.

Its just got to a point now where its EVERY night. He has a small dachshund size crate and we use it for car journeys etc as well as his main bed.

In the day he can 99% of the time do at 5-6hrs stay in without messing on the floor... he is usually in his cage from 12-6:30am so quite minimum times.

It got to a point where it was good - was getting better but its just every night now. He has 2 feeds a day - 7am and 5ish... he only likes tinned/tray food, hates hard biscuits!

Ill try taking the water up early like 7/8 as suggested and let every one know...

Plus all his bedding is washed on a special soil wash on the washer dryer....

He always goes for a wee before bedtime and he knows now late wee=bedtime so just trots into his cage and lies down.

Thankyou to you all in advance
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Re: Stubborn Dachshund (toilet training)

hi there!
i can't tell you how relieved i feel that i am not the only one with dachshund probs! my darcy is wonderfull and i love him to bits, but toilet training is proving really hard! night time i think i have cracked he is in a cage in our bedroom and we have had no wees at night for some time, he wakes me up whining when he needs to go, but in the day time is when we still have problems. we had him in a pen for the first few months while we are out, usually for no longer than 3-4 hours at a time, and almost all the time he had weeed in his bed. i have now put him in a crate when we are out which he loves but still wees in it. we feed twice daily although he is not a big eater, and don't leave water in his cage. he is a real people dog and won't leave me alone at home so could it be seperation that is causing this? was told not to give himtreats when he wees or poohs outside as he then will do it in the house for a treat. i have never had a puppy before so i try and listen to all advice but it gets a bit confusing at times! any haelp would be appreciated!
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Re: Stubborn Dachshund (toilet training)

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Restrict his water intake near the end of the day,
Hi Nick,
i think that restricting access to water is not really a good suggestion, dogs need to be able to drink when they need it at all time.

apart that it is actually against the Welfare of Animal Laws (and Act)
http://www.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm/far...dutytocare.pdf
and
http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-pet...s/cop-dogs.pdf

restricting access doesn't actually help in training the pup/dog.

the only way forward is actually begin from scratch and make sure the pup (now dog) is encouraged to soil in the appropriate area. being a small dog, many holders pick them up to go outside...and this delays learning...as the pup should find its way to the toilet area. i know it can be a pain, but at least in the first few days the pup should be taken out also once during the night, approx 4 hours after it's gone to bed, without chatting fussing or anything...just lead on, back to the garden, wee/poo and back to bed...

at that age they learn very quick and incidents will soon become fewer and far between.

obviously this holds if the dogs has been checked and cleared by a vet re. possible irritations, infections or discomforts

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Old 25-12-2009, 07:18 PM
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Re: Stubborn Dachshund (toilet training)

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Hi Nick,
i think that restricting access to water is not really a good suggestion, dogs need to be able to drink when they need it at all time.

apart that it is actually against the Welfare of Animal Laws (and Act)
http://www.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm/far...dutytocare.pdf
and
http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-pet...s/cop-dogs.pdf

restricting access doesn't actually help in training the pup/dog.

the only way forward is actually begin from scratch and make sure the pup (now dog) is encouraged to soil in the appropriate area. being a small dog, many holders pick them up to go outside...and this delays learning...as the pup should find its way to the toilet area. i know it can be a pain, but at least in the first few days the pup should be taken out also once during the night, approx 4 hours after it's gone to bed, without chatting fussing or anything...just lead on, back to the garden, wee/poo and back to bed...

at that age they learn very quick and incidents will soon become fewer and far between.

obviously this holds if the dogs has been checked and cleared by a vet re. possible irritations, infections or discomforts

good luck
and merry Christmas
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d
Lol. Well that's the first time I've ever had the animal welfare act quoted to me! I normally quote it to others in court.

I can see what you're trying to point out though. All I said is to restrict water access near the end of the day. A dog should have access to clean, fresh water at all other times otherwise - of course it should.

I have a 14 week old wire-haired vizsla here now, and after 7pm he gets no water until breakfast. He sleeps in his crate at night and is dry most nights. If I allowed him to drink masses at 10pm say, his crate would be sodden come the morning.

It's perfectly ok to reward your dog for toileting outside with a favourite treat. Vigilance is the key word for inside prevention. A quick clap-clap of the hands, and immediate placing onto the desired spot outside should he start to go indoors will help.

Ensure the crate is not too big. Dach's are of course small, so a small crate should suffice.

Feel free to contact me directly if you're still struggling.

Merry Christmas all. I am thoroughly stuffed. Cheese and biscuits will have to wait for another day!
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This is a tiny puppy with a tiny stomach and bladder. Very small dogs tend to need the loo a lot more often and a 4 & 1/2 month old normal sized puppy may not even be fully housetrained at that age either. So, take him out after he wakes from sleeping, after he has had a play session, after he eats or drinks and every 2 hours at least throughout the day if he has not given you cause to put him out before. Replace the bowl of water with a few ice cubes to lick at after about 9pm rather than withold water altogether. Witholding water for half of his total day may appear to curtail the peeing but dehydration for so long is no good to man nor beast and is not right at all. Further advice can be found on this link - Housetraining post
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