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Old 25-11-2012, 02:35 PM
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Working Dog Refusing to move mid-walk

Hi there!
I am hoping some people will have a bit of know-how on how to approach this difficult subject!

My mum has a working guide dog, she is willfull, stubbon, but a total sweetie and adores my mother. She has developed a problem in the last few months which has got steadily worse.

My mum walks her dog locally to the local shop, her mothers, other relatives etc in the village. She works her dog every day and free runs her once a week.

The dog has started to stop and stand with her feet completly rooted. Upon my observation, it is whenever she wants to take control, i.e they pass a path she wants to go up, or a zebra crossing she wants to cross. Once shes worked out she's not going down that route, she stops.

It is upsetting my mother, as she cannot go out without the dog, and she's terrified the dog is going to be taken away from her.

My dogs experienced a simular habit, but i fixed it by walking ahead, sharply tugging the lead and then rewarding when they finally begin walking again. My mother cannot do this, she cannot walk ahead of the dog, and she cannot give it treats.

She has tried turning round, taking the dog home, then leaving the dog in the house and going next door (basically, punishing the dog by ignoring it)
But this only works for about 7 mins then she tries it on again.

She also has no problem working if i walk ahead during a route, however, she is not concentrating on guiding my other, but she is dragging her, and following me.

She seems to love working and when she "goes her way" she is a excellent worker.

any tips?
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Old 25-11-2012, 02:40 PM
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Re: Working Dog Refusing to move mid-walk

Guide dogs are not wilful or stubborn. If they were, they wouldn`t pass the training. The dog has a problem with something. Inform GD and ask them to come and observe. I`m sure this is something that can be fixed.
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Re: Working Dog Refusing to move mid-walk

Hi when this dog stops and does not want to move even for a short time are its hind legs at normal distance apart or are they close together? ie.. feet near each other if the latter this could indicate the dog has pain in its back,
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Re: Working Dog Refusing to move mid-walk

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Guide dogs are not wilful or stubborn. If they were, they wouldn`t pass the training. The dog has a problem with something. Inform GD and ask them to come and observe. I`m sure this is something that can be fixed.
Sorry but thats not true. Guide dogs all have different personalities, and a stubborn dog can be just as good worker.

GD are going to try and help, i'm just posting on here to see if i could get any other insight.
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Hi when this dog stops and does not want to move even for a short time are its hind legs at normal distance apart or are they close together? ie.. feet near each other if the latter this could indicate the dog has pain in its back,
No she shows no signs of pain. I'm pretty sure it's behavioural. I should mention she also only does it in the village. If shes working in town or in shops/resturants she's excellent.
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Re: Working Dog Refusing to move mid-walk

Do you know anyone else who has experience of guide dogs? I've got an online friend who has puppy walked and has met up with some of the dogs she's put through initial training. I'm surprised there isn't some sort of online support group you can join? Might be worth while suggesting one.
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Re: Working Dog Refusing to move mid-walk

Not personally no. Its difficult as i'm not allowed to touch her dog or interfere with any training she has.

Its frustrating cos i'm pretty sure a afternoon walking her would stop the problem! I just need something to help put my mums mind at rest, she's a first time dog owner and has no knowledge of dog psychology. I do try and explain it to her, but she thinks i'm talking out of my bottom!
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Re: Working Dog Refusing to move mid-walk

THere is no point in asking us for help as we cannot diagnose over the ether.

The GDBA needs to be informed and they will send over the relevant person to determine what the next stpes should be ie vet and/or behavioural.
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Re: Working Dog Refusing to move mid-walk

Is it always in the same place or places? If it is, it could be that something has frightened her there. As you say she only does it in the village, it could also be something to do with her being completely familiar with that area.

I don't know anything about guide dogs so I cannot compare, but one of my dogs does this if I try to walk him on a lead. He sits though, but refuses to move. And one place we used to go he will not go anymore.

Just a thought, but Guide Dogs really need to sort it out as they are the ones who know what they are doing.

Good luck with her.
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Re: Working Dog Refusing to move mid-walk

The guide dogs are aware of the situation as i've already said. I was simply asking for other opinions.

Forgive me i was under the impression this was a forum where people share tips and advice! how silly of me
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