
01-02-2011, 09:58 AM
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Re: Dog training-Leicester area.
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Originally Posted by Doolally
Even if dogs were to pack, which actually the majority of free ranging dogs don't do.....why would they consider humans, who can't speak they're language, to be part of their 'pack'?
Research has shown that feral dogs don't need to form packs to survive as they have evolved to be scavengers rather than hunters. Most wolves do still need to form packs to survive as they are hunters, and the size of their prey means they must hunt in a pack.
Dogs are not just mini-wolves and should not be treated as such...it just makes absolutely no sense to them to treat them as if they are!!!
And if you believe what you have written I suggest you do a little more research on 'the science of dogs and their psychology'
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Pet dogs are not feral dogs. Pet dogs are not wolves. Pet dogs are not scavengers or free roaming. Not my pet dogs anyway. Every dog behaviour course on the planet will teach you about pack structure. Dogs are pack animals whether you like it or not. This doesn't mean they should be treated like wolves. Your comments are totally irrelevant. I haven't mentioned wolves. But the pack aspect to dogs does stem from their origins, the wolf. Again, this is scientific fact. Of course they're not mini wolves. Evolution, human intervention etc has altered them on every level, but many behavioural traits are still hard wired on a genetic level and the dog has the wolf to thank for them. I suggest you also study a bit of dog psychology and not just dog training. I also suggest you speak to someone who has a nightmare dog they can't near because it has become the dominant pack member. All dogs are not the same, and many owners have to consider pack structure in order to resolve issues. Dogs will happily accept a human as a pack leader figure. What experience of this do you have? I've lived with a pack of dogs for a year. I had a Rottweiler, a GSD, two staffies, a Jack Russell, an American Bulldog, and a lab cross. They weren't wolves. they weren't free roaming. They weren't wild. They were all domesticated pet dogs. And they were without doubt a pack. And I was without doubt the pack leader. The idea that dog training is on one hand and dog behaviour is on the other, and never the twain shall meet, is an old fashioned opinion held by outdated dinosaurs. It's high time people learned to combine positive reward dog training with knowing a little about how dogs think. This has nothing to do with Cesar Millan. I have Nottingham Trent University's Animal Behaviour Degree course in front of me, and here's one part of it...Social behaviour of the dog - the social system, social behaviour of wolves, feral
dogs, domestic dogs...are you suggesting the Doctors at the University should go and study the subject a little more because they teach about the origins of the dog, mention the word wolf, and teach about pack structure and the social system? What is it that you believe if you think dogs have nothing to do with wolves and are not pack animals? I'm curious. and what's your experience to so readily criticise others?
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