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Old 16-12-2008, 08:04 PM
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Hi All,
Can anyone recommend a good dog training providor in the Leicestershire area. I live in the Hinckley area. I was attending paws to perfect in Hinckley but the last session I went to seemed to be advertising for the other branch of the campany which specialise in agility and I had to pay for the previlage. I wont be doing agility with my 2 but I want a bit of guidence with taming their normal boistrous behaviour. I dont mind traveling to pretty much anywhere in leicestershire if they are worth going to but the only other issue I have is that I will preferably be at the weekend due to my irregular hours. If anyone can recomend anywhere then please fell free to let me know.

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Re: Dog training-Leicester area.

Hi, I have been put in touch with Theresa Franklin who provides training in Burbage:

http://www.dogs-theresafranklin.co.uk/

the Kennel Club adevrtise details of her for their puppy classes, and also the bronze, silver and gold levels of the Good Citizen award training

we shall be starting there for puppy training shortly

i have just realised the date of this post but thought i would reply anyway
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Re: Dog training-Leicester area.

Yes, I've just moved here:

Dog behaviourist now offering new obedience training classes for 2011.

www.jamesconroy.co.uk
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Re: Dog training-Leicester area.

www.jamesconroy.co.uk

Just looked at his site - he's obviously a big Cesar Milan fan.

Personally I would go and watch one of his classes without a dog, before enrolling.
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Re: Dog training-Leicester area.

Delian Graham runs a puppy and junior school near Coalville. Search Delan training! Www.Delan.co.uk

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www.jamesconroy.co.uk

Just looked at his site - he's obviously a big Cesar Milan fan.

Personally I would go and watch one of his classes without a dog, before enrolling.
There's nothing Cesar Millan about obedience training, and being aware of pack structure and your role in it in addition to positive reward based dog training makes perfect sense. This is not one opinion versus another. This is the science of dogs and their psychology. We know it to be fact that dogs are pack animals. This is not a theory proposed by Mr Millan.
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Re: Dog training-Leicester area.

I've not been to this actual training centre Dog Training Leicester | Dog Behaviour Leicestershire, but I have been to lectures by Sara Whittaker and I really like her

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There's nothing Cesar Millan about obedience training, and being aware of pack structure and your role in it in addition to positive reward based dog training makes perfect sense. This is not one opinion versus another. This is the science of dogs and their psychology. We know it to be fact that dogs are pack animals. This is not a theory proposed by Mr Millan.
Even if dogs were to pack, which actually the majority of free ranging dogs don't do.....why would they consider humans, who can't speak they're language, to be part of their 'pack'?
Research has shown that feral dogs don't need to form packs to survive as they have evolved to be scavengers rather than hunters. Most wolves do still need to form packs to survive as they are hunters, and the size of their prey means they must hunt in a pack.
Dogs are not just mini-wolves and should not be treated as such...it just makes absolutely no sense to them to treat them as if they are!!!
And if you believe what you have written I suggest you do a little more research on 'the science of dogs and their psychology'
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Even if dogs were to pack, which actually the majority of free ranging dogs don't do.....why would they consider humans, who can't speak they're language, to be part of their 'pack'?
Research has shown that feral dogs don't need to form packs to survive as they have evolved to be scavengers rather than hunters. Most wolves do still need to form packs to survive as they are hunters, and the size of their prey means they must hunt in a pack.
Dogs are not just mini-wolves and should not be treated as such...it just makes absolutely no sense to them to treat them as if they are!!!
And if you believe what you have written I suggest you do a little more research on 'the science of dogs and their psychology'
Pet dogs are not feral dogs. Pet dogs are not wolves. Pet dogs are not scavengers or free roaming. Not my pet dogs anyway. Every dog behaviour course on the planet will teach you about pack structure. Dogs are pack animals whether you like it or not. This doesn't mean they should be treated like wolves. Your comments are totally irrelevant. I haven't mentioned wolves. But the pack aspect to dogs does stem from their origins, the wolf. Again, this is scientific fact. Of course they're not mini wolves. Evolution, human intervention etc has altered them on every level, but many behavioural traits are still hard wired on a genetic level and the dog has the wolf to thank for them. I suggest you also study a bit of dog psychology and not just dog training. I also suggest you speak to someone who has a nightmare dog they can't near because it has become the dominant pack member. All dogs are not the same, and many owners have to consider pack structure in order to resolve issues. Dogs will happily accept a human as a pack leader figure. What experience of this do you have? I've lived with a pack of dogs for a year. I had a Rottweiler, a GSD, two staffies, a Jack Russell, an American Bulldog, and a lab cross. They weren't wolves. they weren't free roaming. They weren't wild. They were all domesticated pet dogs. And they were without doubt a pack. And I was without doubt the pack leader. The idea that dog training is on one hand and dog behaviour is on the other, and never the twain shall meet, is an old fashioned opinion held by outdated dinosaurs. It's high time people learned to combine positive reward dog training with knowing a little about how dogs think. This has nothing to do with Cesar Millan. I have Nottingham Trent University's Animal Behaviour Degree course in front of me, and here's one part of it...Social behaviour of the dog - the social system, social behaviour of wolves, feral
dogs, domestic dogs...are you suggesting the Doctors at the University should go and study the subject a little more because they teach about the origins of the dog, mention the word wolf, and teach about pack structure and the social system? What is it that you believe if you think dogs have nothing to do with wolves and are not pack animals? I'm curious. and what's your experience to so readily criticise others?
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Even if dogs were to pack, which actually the majority of free ranging dogs don't do.....why would they consider humans, who can't speak they're language, to be part of their 'pack'?
Research has shown that feral dogs don't need to form packs to survive as they have evolved to be scavengers rather than hunters. Most wolves do still need to form packs to survive as they are hunters, and the size of their prey means they must hunt in a pack.
Dogs are not just mini-wolves and should not be treated as such...it just makes absolutely no sense to them to treat them as if they are!!!
And if you believe what you have written I suggest you do a little more research on 'the science of dogs and their psychology'
From the God Father of dog training himself, John Fisher... Fisher took from ethology the notion that dogs behave in certain ways because they are pack animals, and from behaviourism the notion that reward-based methods are more effective than methods based on punishment. This allowed him to develop a non-confrontational view of training, while still stressing that owners should ensure that their dogs saw them as the boss. His view was that other problems would resolve themselves if the human's position as leader was made clear to the dog, by humans behaving in ways that paralleled the behaviour of alpha wolves, who are leaders of their packs.

Let me guess, John Fisher didn't know anything either?
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