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Old 06-02-2012, 08:33 PM
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They are on fields, one very short in the morning literally a few minutes, one longer on fields but again still brief, and one more short one like the morning.

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The rule for walking is 5 minutes per month of age, per day. That means 5 minutes per walk for your puppy BUT that is only forced lead walking. She can run about in fields as much as she wants, as long as she doesn't have to follow you/keep up with you. It's important that your pup builds muscle at her own pace. Under exercising can cause as many problems as over exercising x
Thanks for making it a bit clearer - I'm miles away atm lol..
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Re: Outdoor Kennel

Yes i understand this about exercise, it takes a few mins to get to the field which is her longer walk, and the other walks are to get her into a toileting routine along with letting her out into the back garden regularly.
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Re: Outdoor Kennel

now i am an advocate of your dog being a full part of your family but as far as i can see. isnt it better that this pup can settle themselves in their own way, have a play with something (put some toys and chews in there as bordom brackers) instead of being locked in a tiny box, erm i mean crate.....

and im sorry but if youre not in theres no difference between locking your dog in the kitchen then a shed.

you might want to think about leaving an item of clothing or a pillow case in the shed that smells of you to act as a comforter. my two loves stealing the mans socks when hes at work and when i go out they steal mine too, they dont chew them or distroy them, just move about this them and keep them close.

just a few thoughts to keep the silly at bay
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Re: Outdoor Kennel

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now i am an advocate of your dog being a full part of your family but as far as i can see. isnt it better that this pup can settle themselves in their own way, have a play with something (put some toys and chews in there as bordom brackers) instead of being locked in a tiny box, erm i mean crate.....

and im sorry but if youre not in theres no difference between locking your dog in the kitchen then a shed.

you might want to think about leaving an item of clothing or a pillow case in the shed that smells of you to act as a comforter. my two loves stealing the mans socks when hes at work and when i go out they steal mine too, they dont chew them or distroy them, just move about this them and keep them close.

just a few thoughts to keep the silly at bay
Ah - I wouldn't advise this without caution; having my OH doing this with our lab x I can honestly say it was the worst thing he ever did, Louie will now chew anything that smells of his feet (he left him with his socks), it may comfort them but it can also lead to bigger problems.. not all dogs are the same and labs are a breed that can be mouthy and chew a lot, whilst yours may not destroy them, others may.. it's one of those that you can do but there may be consequences later on..

Not questioning your post - just adding on an experience..
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Re: Outdoor Kennel

dont panic, im not going to get offended by a different experience of something

wow, maybe mine are odd because the LOOOOOOVE to chew but iv never seen them chew anything we wear, oh a part from the odd pair of my knickers if they get left on the top of the washing pile, silly lesbian pups hehe but theyd never chew a precious sock, they are to be carefully looked after and loved apparently

sometimes i think, i wish i knew what was going through their mnds, and then i think, you know what i dont think i really want to know
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Re: Outdoor Kennel

Mm.......sorry but maybe you should have got a rabbit?
No wonder the pup doesn't want to go into a shed alone? I think if there were two (older) co-existing dogs together I could maybe agree with you that the set-up would be ok and work (but I still can't help thinking it would be a cold isolating place during winter).....it makes me a bit sad reading your initial post if I'm honest considering the current age mainly and it being alone during these times.

I have a lab and they like to interact and if yours is anything like mine when he was younger; i.e needed watching like a hawk and listening to what he was getting up to as they eat pretty much anything and everything and was into all sorts....how can you do that from separate accommodation? Even with toys you have to supervise ideally and make sure they're safe ones if leaving in the crate with them.

As a minimum extra I'd suggest a baby type intercom device so at least you can hear any distress or any unexpected goings on in there.
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Re: Outdoor Kennel

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dont panic, im not going to get offended by a different experience of something

wow, maybe mine are odd because the LOOOOOOVE to chew but iv never seen them chew anything we wear, oh a part from the odd pair of my knickers if they get left on the top of the washing pile, silly lesbian pups hehe but theyd never chew a precious sock, they are to be carefully looked after and loved apparently

sometimes i think, i wish i knew what was going through their mnds, and then i think, you know what i dont think i really want to know
You never know how some people may take things though

OH also used to put his sock in the crate with the visiting Shih Tzu when she first came to stay, the second time around I found 3 of his shoes and lots of socks in the garden (left the door open) and this little Tzu had took all these outside.. It was a horror for him to see this Tzu and our boy playing tug with one of his good trainers.. I did tell him when he started to do it that there would be trouble
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Mm.......sorry but maybe you should have got a rabbit?
No wonder the pup doesn't want to go into a shed alone? I think if there were two (older) co-existing dogs together I could maybe agree with you that the set-up would be ok and work (but I still can't help thinking it would be a cold isolating place during winter).....it makes me a bit sad reading your initial post if I'm honest considering the current age mainly and it being alone during these times.

I have a lab and they like to interact and if yours is anything like mine when he was younger; i.e needed watching like a hawk and listening to what he was getting up to as they eat pretty much anything and everything and was into all sorts....how can you do that from separate accommodation? Even with toys you have to supervise ideally and make sure they're safe ones if leaving in the crate with them.

As a minimum extra I'd suggest a baby type intercom device so at least you can hear any distress or any unexpected goings on in there.
How would they be able to use a baby monitor is they're out the house? they're not going to be sitting in the house with pup out there. It's only so he has his own quarter while they're out getting the shopping etc. Normal stuff that you'd crate for to keep pup safe.
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Re: Outdoor Kennel

If they were only having pup in there 'while they're out getting the shopping' then of course I wouldn't be recommending a baby monitor.

The purpose of it (and hopefully it would still work......if the building is adjacent to the house) would be for the night period when the pup is alone......that is the part I'm liking the least.

Better still find room in the house especially over winter
I feel the pup is suffering because there isn't sufficient room in the property and that's not it's fault.
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Re: Outdoor Kennel

I've got Labradors and have a few friends with them as well, and tbh, one pup in a shed/kennel on it's own isn't ideal, I'd prefer two simply because they do keep each other warm.

I'm not sure where some peole get their ideas from, but surely if you've got one dog living in a house, and you work, it makes no difference to the dog that it's in the house, or in a purpose made kennel/shed, as long as it's secure and they have access to water? Dogs in kennels don't lie there thinking *I wish I could be on the sofa in the front room*, they are used to that sleeping space and they just sleep, which is pretty much what most dogs do when we leave them to go to work, which I will be doing shortly and sticking two of mine in a crate for their own good!

My dogs have been both indoor and outdoor dogs, and to some extent, the outdoors suits them better, but the indoors suits me better, but then that's our selfish human needs taking over what's possibly best for the dogs. They loved seeing what went on, and being in the fresh air, dozing off in the sunshine was a favourite, and when I move to my new house, they will be getting an outdoor run to do just that for when I'm working from home.

To the OP, I suggest you reserve some really nice tasty treats, and spend time with her near her crate, fussing her, and then treating her when she's in there. Perhaps invest in some kong toys and stuff those for her so she has something to keep her occupied before she goes off to sleep.

Also spot on re the exercise, just let her run around and play, I don't know if you've got her to train up for anything, but as long as you've got the basics in there at this age, and are concentrating on them, she should be fine. I would also suggest socialising her with other dogs and other areas, so she is used to them, otherwise she may become frightened of the unknown
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