As most know, Diva is 3 1/2 and has until October when she came to live with me been a kennel dog.

I have found what I think is a bit odd. If I don't get up early enough to let her up, she wees and poos on the floor. If my grandson is sleeping on the sofa, she doesn't do it and we can all sleep till nine.

He does not let her out, he is usually sleeping it off and wouldn't even notice, but it seems that the fact that he is there stops her from needing to go. I find this quite strange.

Does anyone think that she just gets a little panicky when she wakes up, wondering if there is anyone in the house? Although Ferdie is there, she is used to having other dogs about and the only thing I can think is that perhaps she gets anxious if she cannot see or hear a human.

Anyone got any other ideas?

I am always quite pleased when my grandson turns up to doss on the sofa, as it means I can get a lie in!

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Hi newfiesmum, I was replaying on the other thread yesterday. Our Bella was doing the same!!!
I will just copy-paste it from teh other thread if you don't mind

Our Bella is 7.5 months and has been peeing and pooping during the night since we got her. She would also cry during the night ocationally and would not want to go in the living room at a bed time. We would be waking up every morning at 5 for the last 5 months , to take her out but instead we've been entering a room of mess. We tried letting her sleep with us for a night and probably you know what the result was..she could perfectly hold it for 6 hours.

I did take her to the vet as well and he found, from the urine sample, that she has a bladder infection. However, that doesn't explain her pooping and crying during the night, so I concluded it was a combination of both. Her wanting to be with us and also her wanting to be heard. She's been with us in the bedroom for a whole week now and there was no accidents at all. I had a chat with my partner and we concluded that their life is too short and that if she is so desperate to be with us, we will let her be. Don't get me wrong, she is very well behaved and trained, it is just that in my opinion every dog is different and we didn't make her attached to us, it came with her personality. She just wants to be next to us during the night and hey, why not if that is what it takes.

I would however take your girl to the vets and make sure she is not ill. When you know for sure, take it from there and decide what you want to do. I was adviced by a trainer that Bella has a room too big for her to look after and that I should put her in a crate. We left the baby gate of the living room opened one night, just to see if that is the case, and she slept nicely in the hallway without any accidents meaning that she just didn't want to be shut behind the gates.

Good luck and listen to your girl. She doens't need to rule your life but we need to try and see what our dogs have to say sometimes.

I am pretty sure there is nothing medically wrong and the toileting is always just before I get up, unless I get up earlier. I know it is fresh because the wee is still warm! I have always been in favour of dogs sleeping with their people, especially puppies, but giant breeds don't do stairs. I can't sleep on the sofa myself as it would do damage to my poor back.

So basically, you are agreeing that it is an anxiety thing when she wakes up and finds no humans about? That is what I think to be honest. Being as she was a kennel dog all her life, she doesn't really know how to hold on to it. She does give a little bark, but by the time that has penetrated my dreams and got me out of bed, it is too late.

It is not a major inconvenience, just think it is strange that she doesn't want to go when someone is sleeping on the sofa!

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I think that in our case it was both, anxiety and medical. The same as with your lady, Bella would do it just before we woke up and I could feel the warmth as well. Although not always. Our alarm clock would go off but by the time we managed to get out of the bed it would be too late.

I do think that with a Newfoundland in bed it can get quite busy in there but what about letting her sleep next to your bed? Bella is with us only for half an hour and then she wonders off and sleeps next to the bed.

I would be delighted to have them both sleep by my bed, but as I said, giant dogs do not do stairs. They are both incapable of getting upstairs and I doubt I would ever get them down again, especially Ferdie.

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I am sorry; I forgot that you mentioned the stairs.

Is she shut in the living room or can she wonder around?

Maybe you could start from a scratch as you would with a young puppy and let her out something like 6am and then extend this time each day/week by 5/10 minutes or so. You could also make her bedding more secure by putting in/on some clothing, blanket or towels that smell of you, leave the radio or TV on?

After all, it has only been a good month(if I got that part right) since she came to live with you and she is probably still not used to the house, sounds, surroundings and also in general, living in the house.

Maybe she is used to toileting in the kennel and thinks that it is fine doing it in the house as well.

She goes wherever she likes downstairs. Not that there is a lot of downstairs, to be honest - lounge, hallway and very big kitchen. She is quiet as a mouse all night, sleeps with Ferdie quite happily, and if I get up early enough, usually about 6.45, to let her out no problems. Just that if Ryan is there asleep on the sofa, she doesn't seem to want to go, which is what I am finding odd. I think she is maybe wondering where all the people have gone when she wakes up and I am sure it is nothing to worry about.

I got her mid october and she is still following me everywhere, so probably scared I will vanish, but she is fine during the day with Ferdie. I leave the back door open if there is no one in so they have access to the garden.

Perhaps when she feels more secure, she will be fine. I am not too bothered, as I said. I have twice caught her trying to wee on the floor when I am there and have taken her straight out into the garden, so I think she is getting the message that that is the place to go, but she doesn't ever ask to go out. She usually just goes out when Ferdie does, and all he does is stand by the back door so he isn't teaching her to bark for it.

It is not a major problem to me. She is a little darling in all respects and just loves cuddles! I can put up with a bit of wee!

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