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Old 14-11-2011, 06:52 PM
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good dog behaviourist in East London?

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Thank you all very much for your advice! I will contact the dog behaviourists you recommended and even try to read up on how to train the dog properly. As much as I like to put the blame on Max, it is my lack of authority and lack of direction that has enabled him to challenge me and get away with it. He is otherwise very loving and sweet so harsh punishment would be a very difficult thing for me to administer. I am hoping to learn from the trainer as much as my dog does as without consistency it is pointless trying to teach him to behave. Thank you all once again.
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good dog behaviourist in East London?

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Fair enough, we agree to disagree. Challenging cases are made even more challenging by people wanting quick fixes, and thus not opting for the fun approaches to training, but using more force and coercion to get an end result. IMO, they lack patience. But I rather take things really slow and train using rewards to build up to a behaviour whenever possible. Any punishment is just suppression of a behaviour; the real learning of a substitute behaviour comes from being rewarded for another behaviour.
I must also agree to disagree.
You see, I understand that many gundog trainers use an empty belly to make their dogs more keen to work, but we need our dogs to be calm and and co-operative, not manic or anxious. Especially in a street, where a child might wander past munching a burger.
I would rather take more time and build up in stages than go for the confrontation, even if it does take a lot longer. I`d feel happier doing it that way. One of my dogs gets very hyperactive if I get too assertive - it`s his way of coping. So I have to back off and calm him. And there he has taught me a good lesson.
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good dog behaviourist in East London?

I do not know of any gundog trainers who use an empty belly to make their dogs more keen to work! They would not get very far of course as not only would they, according to you, become manic and anxious, but of course they would not be able to perform for the full day's work of either walked up or driven shooting!

As gundog owners need their dogs to be "calm and cooperative" as in fact ALL dog owners do IME.

As EIC (exercise induced collapse) is a real worry in these conditions no gundog trainer would to this.

Not IME anyway

There is a huge difference between being a bit peckish and starvation, IME.

And of course if the dog is on the lead I am struggling to understand what a child eating a burger has got to do with this scenario?

Especially in this case where the dog is not actually moving........

(perhaps the child with the burger might trip over said dog?)

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