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14-11-2008, 10:39 PM
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Fear aggression
I have a jack russell mix who is now 11 years old. When I first got him from Kennels he was about 14 weeks old and terrified of everything - he hated men, children and loud noises. He is now loving with all humans and can be totally trusted with kids, loud noises don't bother him anymore BUT... he always wants to pick a fight with any dog he doesn't know.
Over the years he has been to various dog training etc... and I have always said "can you help me with his lunging and growling at dogs he doesn't know". No-one was interested so in the end I gave up  Needless to say he still has this problem which cost him a trip to the vets last year and a chunk out of his ear. I wasn't walking him because I always put him on the lead when I see another dog. He grew up with another dog and is best mates with my mums collies. We also rescued another terrier cross last year and he plays with her all the time. He was neutered years ago and is plainly scared of these dogs rather than out n out nasty. I have spent the last 11 years shouting NO at him when he goes barmy at other dogs. The only way I can not get a reaction is if I sit him and make him watch the other dog pass by saying "leave it". I would really like for him to walk past another dog without a reaction at all. Anybody any ideas?? Holly the female just looks at him gone out..... Thank god!!! 
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15-11-2008, 03:00 PM
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Re: Fear aggression
Does he do this when he's off the lead only it sound like 'Aggression on the Lead'. Dogs sometimes feel 'trapped' when they're on their lead when they meet other dogs. If they were off lead they would probably run away but they can't.
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15-11-2008, 03:12 PM
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Re: Fear aggression
I have said this numerous times with regard to training and behaviourists. What works for one dog, may not work for another.
 It must be extremely frustrating for you. Normally, I do not like to offer advice to anyone with aggression problems, since I think its something for a professional, and not a forum. However, what it he motivated by? Is it toys, or food? You could try taking out some food (sausage, ham, cheese etc), and before your dog sees another dog, get his attention with said treat. As the dog approaches offer the treat, so he begins to associate something nice with an approaching dog. It certainly is worth a try. Best of luck 
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15-11-2008, 08:34 PM
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First off can I say how devoted it is of you to still be working on this, you deserve a medal  Unfortunately this is not necessarily the kind of behaviour that will be address in a group class, not really any fault of a trainer, it's just that your issue requires a personal approach. Have you thought about seeking the professional assistance of a behaviourist? I feel confident that a good behaviourist could help you resolve this issue. A good place to start is here: The Association of Pet Behaviour Counsellors Make sure you find a behaviourist who can give you a program of desensitization and counter-conditioning, as well as set up scenarios for you where your dog can meet reliable dogs. Reliable dogs are often used for cases like yours, reliable means they are extremely obedient and pretty much bullet-proof, and will not react to your dogs aggression in a controlled environment. In the meantime I would suggest you buy yourself a clicker and start clicker training, your dog is not too old to have his behaviour modified by clicker training. I don't really need to tell you to be patient, but just to make you aware that modifying your dogs behaviour will take some time, but hang on in there. I have personally worked with many older dogs like yours, and there is a light at the end of the tunnel. What I might need to tell you is that you also have to think about how your behaviour effects your dog. How do you behave when you see another dog getting close, how do you feel? I would imagine that you're not too relaxed (which after all this time is to be expected), but your dog will pick up on your body language, so really make an effort to remain calm, (no shouting), confident, but focused at the same time. Don't create tension on the leash, and when/if your dog lunges move your hands as necessary to keep the leash loose, without allowing your dog access to the other dog. Before you start using the clicker with your dog you will need to do what is called charging the clicker. So for a week, three times a day, click and treat your dog for 5 minutes. He doesn't need to be offering you any behaviour (other than being interested and focused on you while you do this). What you are doing is conditioning your dog to associate the sound of the clicker with good things, the treat/reward. Once your dog has this association, you can start using it on walks. Whenever you think your dog is about to react, but before he has a chance to do so, ask him to sit. When he complies start to click and treat him, your aim is to keep him focused on you, so keep the treats coming, click and treat every few seconds. This will be a step in the right direction and a behaviourist will help you take this forward by creating scenarios will reliable dogs. Hope this helps. Angela
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16-11-2008, 12:15 PM
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Re: Fear aggression
Cheers everyone.
Suz - he is exactly the same off the lead  Nina - Cheers for your food suggestions but I have tried them. I once thought I'd cracked it with a ball as usually he will not let go of one for love nor money.... but then he started dropping it when he got near another dog so he could nip them. Never thought of clicker training - haven't tried it so would be worth a shot. I have had an offer of a dog behaviourist but they are quite far away..mmmm will have to give it serious consideration tho'.
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17-11-2008, 09:18 AM
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23-11-2008, 08:06 PM
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Re: Fear aggression
Hi. I have the same problem but with 2 dogs! Got them as rescue's in January and they cannot go off the lead. If you find an answer please let me know! x
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23-11-2008, 09:07 PM
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the trouble with a rescue is you do not know there background & what trauma they have been thru.i believe it is common 4 a rescue 2 have lead agression.ive had fergus a month now & he seemed super obidient untill he had a set 2 with another dog.2 stop myself geting tence & putting him on the lead every 5mins i got a muzzle 4 him .he wore it 4 a couple of weeks untill we were sure of each other & now he is more interested chaseing his ball n is not interested in other dogs.time love, treats & oodles of patience is required with any rescue.hope that helps but there are other people inc a behaviourist who can give good advice
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