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Old 23-09-2011, 06:33 PM
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Re: One Show - KC statement

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breed clubs have breed standards which the KC may or may not adopt.
UK breed clubs cannot register their dogs as pedigree dogs, which means they cannot hold championship shows, such as they are, KC is the UK breed registration club and unless a dog is registered with them the dog cannot be shown in its championship shows and a non registered dog cannot have its offspring registered as pedigree dogs.

In EVERY country in Europe, including the ex eastern block, all working breeds must pass a fit for breeding purpose string of tests, if they fail the breed registration club which imposes the mandatory tests will not allow that dog to be registered as fit for breeding.

Never mind, KC knows how to manipulate some peoples attention away from the mass, daily, welfare problems it generates.
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UK breed clubs cannot register their dogs as pedigree dogs, which means they cannot hold championship shows, such as they are, KC is the UK breed registration club and unless a dog is registered with them the dog cannot be shown in its championship shows and a non registered dog cannot have its offspring registered as pedigree dogs.

In EVERY country in Europe, including the ex eastern block, all working breeds must pass a fit for breeding purpose string of tests, if they fail the breed registration club which imposes the mandatory tests will not allow that dog to be registered as fit for breeding.

Never mind, KC knows how to manipulate some peoples attention away from the mass, daily, welfare problems it generates.
Sigh. Not even going to bother answering such a load of off-topic rubbish.
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Sigh. Not even going to bother answering such a load of off-topic rubbish.
But you just have replied
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But you just have replied
I didn't say I wasn't going to reply - I said I wasn't going to answer any of your off-topic rubbish. Apologies if English is not your first language - only you don't seem to understand it very well.
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Re: One Show - KC statement

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The first written record I have seen making it clear dogs should be trained with reward based methods is Conrad Most 1910.

BUT, what contempory commercial trainers claim they use Skinners operant learning & therefor that meaning of reward, which is really either of the 2 operant reinforcements. So, they cannot use reinforcement based training methods, the mainly use negative punishment based methods but never 'reward' = reinforcement based methods.
Xenophon on his Art of Horsemanship calls for reward based approach when dealing with a fearful horse. That was 2400 years ago.
"He [the horse] will receive the bit, for example more willingly if something good happens to him as soon as he takes it." - On the Art of Horsemanship

"Let the groom be under order also to lead him through crowds, and accustom him to all sorts of sights and all sorts of noises. If the colt shies at any of them, he must teach him, by quieting him and without impatience, that there is nothing to be afraid of" - On the Art of Horsemanship
H.W. Horlock - Letters on the Mangement of Hounds (1852)
"A soft eye, beaming with gentleness and good temper, is a pint to which the instinct of the canine race naturally directs them, nor are they often decieved by this expresson. Kind and benevolent looks have as great an influence over the animal as they have over the human species"

"There was one [hound] particularly cross and savage with the other hounds, and, catching him one day fighting and quarreling, I called the other hounds out of the kennel, and resolved to make him know better. I laid the whip upon him sharply; but, at every cut I gave him, he jumped at me, with his britles up, as savage as a lion. Seeing I might kill him but not subdue him, I threw the whip down on the floor, and, holding my hand, called him to me by name. He immediately approached, with his bristles and stern well up still, and licked the hand held out to him. The lesson was never forgotten by me."
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