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Old 22-09-2011, 04:15 PM
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Re: Getting dog to Drop

[QUOTE=kazters;1061441077]yeah blowing has no effect on her other than making her go a little crazy!

when she was at puppy classes in april the guy tried and she wasnt getting it at all i dont think its a case of she dosnt know hoe to drop she just wont drop.

i even tried a piece of chicken with her last week to get her to drop my glove and she was having none of it, she loves chicken.

Well she's got something that to her is of high value and in her mind why should she give it up.

Try a bit of 'kidology':

The next time she's grimly hanging on to something, ask her once and if she doesn't drop it immediately, use something like a squeaky ball and turn your back on her and play with it yourself...!! Be very exciting and talk to the ball ("hello, you're a nice ball - you're such a clever ball" etc), throw it up in the air, squeak it and examine it as if its the best thing in the world. Nine times out of ten the dog will drop its prized possession because it wants yours.
The minute she drops whatever is in her mouth say "swap", "give" or any command you choose and give her a tit-bit and/or let her have the squeaky ball.
I tend to use two high value toys/balls exactly the same when teaching this. It will take a bit of practice and you must be consistent but your dog will soon learn to drop on command.
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Old 22-09-2011, 05:55 PM
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Re: Getting dog to Drop

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Obviously it works for you, but my OH did it to a Jack Russell they owned as a kid, blew at its nose/face and still has the scar on his lip to this day.
Yep,it worked for me and a load of others I know.
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Old 22-09-2011, 06:05 PM
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Re: Getting dog to Drop

Sorry Manoy - I think it is a bit early for extremes. The dog from what I am guessing is misunderstanding and this is quite common in a lot of dogs.

Let me give a simpler example:

My son is 2 yrs old and at this point in time thinks turn the light off means its opposite. Should I shout at him when he gets it wrong? No. Why? Because he doesn't understand.

If my dog had a childs throat in its mouth I would certainly not be shouting at it I would be either a)shoot it b)open its mouth myself c) NEVER LET MY DOG DO THIS! (maybe that should have come first!)

The dog is playing. Even if it was being aggressive with you - which obviously its not as you are able to open the dogs mouth, you shouldn't shout! Not until you know the dog is taking the biscuit shall we say!

If I was playing with something - maybe my phone and someone shouted at me so they could have it I would thump them more than likely. Or go the opposite way and not want it at all.:

You could try ending the game, but sometimes all a dog wants is the toy and not the game. So you are giving it what it wants.

Really try what I've suggested, it won't happen straight away but it will work if you spend half hour on it I suspect. Give and take, give and take, calm and chilled, don't get annoyed. Just spend some quality time on the exercise. Don't play tug whilst you are doing this so the dog isn't in a frenzy.

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Re: Getting dog to Drop

like someone suggested of a toy of equal value....try a toy exactly the same and make out like its the best thing ever.

Personally I don't negotiate with my dogs but its another method!
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Re: Getting dog to Drop

This isn`t hard. But it`s best to start small and work up. At home, when you`re sitting watching TV do you throw stuff for your / to your dog? if not, do it. After a bit the dog will offer the toy. His reward is that you throw it again. You will probably have to wait a while for him to `get it`.
When he happily gives you the toy say Give or whatever and throw it. If you don`t want to throw it, give a really good treat instead.

When out use a toy you can hold as well. A ball on a rope is good because you can hold the rope while the dog has the ball. Don`t under any circumstances, turn it into a tuggy game. Let go, or put the dog`s lead on if necessary. You might have to sit there for a while, but as soon as your dog releases the ball... you throw the ball!
So if the dog gives you the ball he gets a massive reward. |You can vary it by occasionally giving treats instead, but never let the dog think that giving up the ball means the end of playtime.
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Re: Getting dog to Drop

You could try 'tug of peace'. Hold the object/toy and go dead weight. Disengage completely with the dog, no eye contact, if he moves just move with him but apply no force. If he thinks it's a game he'll wonder why you're not playing. When he releases give your cue and start playing. Rinse and repeat. This has worked well with Dief. Obviously you need to practice with something you don't mind him playing with.
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Re: Getting dog to Drop

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Hello,

looking for advice on getting willow (15 months) to drop things, she will come when called, sit, stay ETC but getting her to drop is a nightmare if we really want something from her (i.e. she has nicked something which she loves to do especialy a sock) we have to pghysicaly open her mouth which i dont like doing.

we have tried offering her a treat and doing to comand, we have tried gently pushing on her mouth with our thumb to get her to drop and nothing. its very rare for her to do it even during play.

ideas ;-) thanks guys
Could the reason she doesn't want to give the item up have anything to do with how much you want to take it from her? If it is of such high value to you, then surely it must be worth holding on to?

Take the value out of the glove/sock or whatever she has by NOT trying so hard to take it form her. What you are doing at the moment is reinforcing the value of the item and turning it into a very rewarding game. Then use Twiggy's excellent advice to get her interest in something else.

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Well she's got something that to her is of high value and in her mind why should she give it up.

Try a bit of 'kidology':

The next time she's grimly hanging on to something, ask her once and if she doesn't drop it immediately, use something like a squeaky ball and turn your back on her and play with it yourself...!! Be very exciting and talk to the ball ("hello, you're a nice ball - you're such a clever ball" etc), throw it up in the air, squeak it and examine it as if its the best thing in the world. Nine times out of ten the dog will drop its prized possession because it wants yours.
The minute she drops whatever is in her mouth say "swap", "give" or any command you choose and give her a tit-bit and/or let her have the squeaky ball.
I tend to use two high value toys/balls exactly the same when teaching this. It will take a bit of practice and you must be consistent but your dog will soon learn to drop on command.
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