Of course we are interested! Where's the smiley when you want one?
I'd go for separate crates too. When everything has settled down and you can leave doors open, you'll probably find they end up together. I have 3 ESS and a big den (crate) and a bed next to it. I only close the door on the den for short periods (15 minutes at most say when I've got to clear up a broken glass and hoover). They can't get three in the bed (but they try) but often it's three in the den or two in the bed and one in the den - for some reason not two in the den and one in the bed, don't know why.

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I had Poppy (my eldest in a crate until she was about 6 months, she just outgrew it, not in physical way, just seemed beter without, then we got Lady who is nearly 12 weeks and we have kept Poppy as she is and Put Lady in a crate, As I've had a few dry and clean night from Lady I let her have the run of the kitchen last night as Poppy was spayed on Thursday and thought she might like the company, however, I happened to choose a night that for whatever reason Lady had the worse bum gravy of her life, I still haven't discoverd why but tonight she's going back into crate, I'm staying up until she has pooed which she normally does before bed thus the clean nights. I don't know if any of this will be of help, just both mine being spaniels, They both Love eachother very much and I think i could trust them together 100% but I think I'll try a few things before I know which is better for them.. I know some would say crat ethem both all the time but I really believe it's a case of trial end error, Poppy just loves sleeping on the sofa in the kitchen and Lady loves her crate, I'd just keep trying until you find a happy medium!!
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Well ..... not such a quiet night last night!!

She whined and whimpered most of the night, and also weed in her crate.

She seems to see being taken outside as a chance to play, even though I do ignore her when we are out there, ready to lavish praise if I see her actually perform.

I have been calling both dogs to come out with me each time, thinking that the older one would help teach the pup where to do her business. Maybe I should just be taking the pup out to start with so she doesn't think of it as a playtime?

I have no problem with ignoring the whining and waiting until she accepts her new crate. It took 3-4 days with the older dog before she slept quietly. Would it be any use though to keep the radio on quietly in the living room do you think?

Also I have been observing the pup playing a gentle tug of war over a toy with the older dog, and the older dog has let the pup win each time. I'm pleased the older one isn't showing any aggression or jealousy, but is it normal for her to let the pup win like this?

Only day two and so many questions!!!

Ok - off around the woods now with the big girl. Maybe it will help clear my thoughts!!!

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IME, even a dog who is generally not good with other dogs will be much more tolerant of a pup. And with dogs who like other dogs anyway, pups tend to get away with murder!!

I got my pup and her dam at the same time, and I well remember wincing as Mum would walk around with pup hanging off her lip - it looked so painful but she never complained. Now, of course, they relate to each other as adults. Go shopping together, have coffee etc.............

Thanks for the reassurance

All is going well, except for a poo incident in her crate last night which gave me no option other than to gently bath the stinky little minx.

I was surprised by how much she absolutely loved having her paws rubbed under the warm running water. She wasn't nervous at all, and in general seems remarkably unfazed by everything she has encountered so far.

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