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Old 28-05-2011, 10:18 PM
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Dogs Peeing in the Same Place

Can anyone explain why my 9 month old boy puppy watches where my 2 1/2 year old bitch pees, sniffs it out, and then pees on top of it?

Is it to mark the territory of the pack?

Is it to try to get rid of her mark and make his own?

I would be interested to hear peoples' thoughts on this.
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Re: Dogs Peeing in the Same Place

As I understand it, it can be for a number of reasons. In this instance, it sounds as though he's either marking with her, or marking her as his; before I go any further, I'm not into pack dominance theory type things, but marking is very important to our dogs, they see more with their noses than they do with their eyes to some extent.

What will really make you think, are those bitches that scent mark over the top of both bitches and dogs, and even cock their legs!
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Re: Dogs Peeing in the Same Place

Ive got 3 and if they are out on a walk together one pees, they all pee one after the other in the same spot. oddly enough they pee in different places in their own garden. My older bitch also pees like a boy scent marks in small amounts and does cock her leg always has done. Outside they usually find a previous scent and cover it.

It is I believe a form of scent marking and obviously with this lot some kind of pack thing, but my breeds are a pack dog anyway. Its basically the equivalent of us leaving a business card. Dogs can tell many things from another dogs scent.
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Re: Dogs Peeing in the Same Place

This article may be interesting for you - Dog Communication | Dog Star Daily

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Olfactory Communication
Many dog owners have realized, dogs urinate far more frequently than is required by physiological need. Indeed, urinary scent marking serves many important functions, including territorial demarcation, sexual attraction, individual recognition and advertisement of puppy license.
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Territorial Marking?
The concept of territoriality incorporates the notions of marking as well as defence. In wolf packs, a greater concentration of male urine marks appear to be distributed along the peripheral buffer zone of the pack's territory compared with the core of the territory.

Perimeter marking by males is similarly prominent with domestic dogs. But, since most domestic dogs are confined to artificial “territories” by walls and fences, and since male dogs tend to urinate against vertical objects, one would expect the majority of urine marking to occur along the perimeter. Surprisingly though, perimeter marking was not observed in an observational study of free-ranging suburban domestic dogs, i.e., dogs which silly owners allowed to roam the neighborhood at different times of the day and night. Instead, free-roaming dogs regularly and heavily marked a number of often-used radial routes, which lead away from and back to their individual homes. Thus, most marking occurred close to home.

Free-roaming dogs did not actively protect the central area of their home range from other free-roaming dogs, nor did urinary scent marking appear to be effective in repelling other dogs, which freely entered and marked inhabited areas, sometimes when the resident was present. Free roaming domestic dogs do not appear to be in the least bit territorial and in fact, some dogs welcome visitors.

Dogs can distinguished between urine marks from different individuals and male dogs sniff and urinate more frequently in response to urine marks from unfamiliar males, compared with urine from familiar males and compared with their own urine. Also, a dog’s response to unfamiliar urine decreases with repeated exposure, as if “strange-male” urine progressively loses its strangeness. Rather than being an agonistic display of territorial defense, urinary scent marking by domestic dogs appears to be a means to make a strange environment smell like home, by masking the unfamiliar odors with individual urine. Urine marking appears to be the canine equivalent of personalizing a new home with furnishings and possessions.

Urinary scent marking is not the prerogative of male dogs. On the contrary, many bitches urine mark and also, many bitches will raise a leg when doing so. However, the female manner of raising a hind leg usually differs from the characteristic male leg lift posture. Male dogs stand with body weight forwards while a hind leg is abducted at the hip joint and the stifle swings out and upwards to lie above the backbone, so that urine may be jetted laterally towards some vertical object, which was in dire need of marking. Bitches, on the other hand, normally raise a hind paw which is brought forwards underneath the body, usually while the bitch is partially squatting. Often her rear end may be swiveled to one side to direct the urine.

Basically, dog urine is the canine equivalent of e-mail. P-mail if you like. Each urine mark contains its own message displayed on a communal message board. “Spot was here!” “So was Rex!” “Me too! Little Twerpie here.” “Hi! My name’s Butch and I’m ten months old.” “Well, my name’s Roger and I’ve been neutered.” “Shame! This is Trixie and I’m just hot to trot!” “Spot was here!” “Me too!” “Me too!” “Me too!” “And me. It’s Twerpie again!”
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