This is aimed at all those people who decide to post in a foriegn language to us mere mortals, please, when you post about dogs, and training, keep it to a language that is easy to understand. There is so much over complicated absolute b*ll*cks when it comes to dog training, and it gets taken out of the reach of Joe Bloggs by all and sundry whose read a little bit about positve training this that and the other. If you want people to come across to your way of thinking MAKE IT EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND STOP USING ABBREVIATIONS!

Rant over

Haha - well said!!

I do think here in the training section some of us (and yes I do include myself in that) tend to get so carried away with the terminlogy / semantics / science that we forget that normal folk may have no idea what we're on about.

But then I never claimed to be normal!

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At least you admit it Colette, honestly, I read some of the advice in this section somtimes, and you need a PhD to start deciphering some of it, come on guys, and gals, why is this forum so difficult to decipher?

Unfortuanately the language I would like to use in some circumstances lately
I cant as its not PC!!

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Ditto!

To be fair, I think when people come on here wanting advice it does tend to be given in day to day terms (at least at first).
It's all the threads about training methods / behaviour theory / cognitive dis.. whateverthehellitis etc that get overcomplicated.

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Ok, what is cognitive dis? For example, you may think this is general knowledge.....

You could read the thread about it has article there Trainers and Cognitive Disequilibrium

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DT&B - Glossary of acronyms & jargon terms.
Encouraging good behaviours, whilst consistently avoiding practise of bad alternatives leads to extinction of the bad. So if dog sits 6/10 times it doesn't sit 4/10 times, encouraging with the right rewards (positively-reinforcing) enough for 9/10 times means it now fails to sit only 1/10 times, sit 10/10 means...

I agree there is a lot of jargon used when going into the details of dog training. Personally it puts me off reading about it. Even though I'm fascinated by most of it, as soon as I see the abbreviations and words used with no explanation of what they mean, I stop reading the thread. I am a speech and language therapist and when we write reports, one of the most important things we have to keep in mind is that not everyone knows what we know. So if we have to use jargon, we give an explanation and possibly an example of what we mean, for clarity. I don't really like following links, either. One reason is because I'm in Saudi Arabia and links are often blocked. I can't open any link posted by LFL for example.

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If you are paid to write those reports as your job and they are for client audience that's reasonable. I'm sure you don't sprinkle every single conversation with your colleagues, with explanations of jargon, abreviations and acronyms.

Not being able to follow links to articles is unfortunate, they often are used to discuss or provide a higher quality of presentation & explanation than is feasible in a forum reply. Also to avoid repetitious posting a link can be much more useful. The problem solution however, lies with those who cause it by being repressive and censoring. Very often a small quote, to convey link contents is given, and ought to help the situation, so when I link, I'll try and remember you

Another reason at times for using a precise term, a jargon shorthand, is that the symbol is actually clearer and better defined than the similar English term, which may mislead the reader, or in some cases actually be used unscrupulously to confuse and mislead, rather than have clarity and inform.

One example of an acryonym I did not know which I've frequently seen is HPR - entering dog hpr - Google Search made it clear in seconds.

Then you can always simply ask, what a term or phrase means; there's often misunderstandings in non technical threads to and the rational thing is to clarify those. I haven't seen the people who engage in theory discusssions passive aggressively belly aching in other threds about ordinary posters being unclear, imprecise and repetitious; where more details are needed or a simple search would have turned up an answer, or just reading the "Stickys".

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For eager & reliable recall, be fun for the dog to come back to! Then often send them off right away to do what they wanted!
DT&B - Glossary of acronyms & jargon terms.
Encouraging good behaviours, whilst consistently avoiding practise of bad alternatives leads to extinction of the bad. So if dog sits 6/10 times it doesn't sit 4/10 times, encouraging with the right rewards (positively-reinforcing) enough for 9/10 times means it now fails to sit only 1/10 times, sit 10/10 means...