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Old 14-10-2008, 09:05 AM
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Help Something Has Gone Wrong ??

We`ve Had Jack now for 4 weeks,and he`s been responding to the training really well up to last weekend,when for no reason all hell has broken loose it`s like he`s another dog.He won`t sit stand or lay down on command or for treats , he barks and growls at people,kids,dogs & cattle , pulls at traffics won`t behave correctly on his lead.Dose`nt ask to go out for toilet he`s started showing his teeth and nipping the backs of our legs when we push past him.And has started having brain out mad sessions in the house, treating it like a race track and won`t calm down or return to us when commanded.I we are despairing we hav`nt changed his food or the times when we feed him,everything is exactly the same,but don`t why or what we have done differently to trigger such a change.

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Old 14-10-2008, 09:11 AM
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Re: Help Something Has Gone Wrong ??

Hi Jack's Dad

How old is he now?

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Old 14-10-2008, 09:54 AM
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Between 9 & 13 months old,he was from Eden Dog Rescue,Shap with hardly any history, a collie / Lurcher Cross
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Old 14-10-2008, 11:04 AM
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A case of the #'kevins' by the sounds of it! Often dogs around 9 month hit a real stage in their lives when - even if you think they have been well trained - it all seems to go out of the window. Normally will be resumed - normally after a couple of months - but be very firm but kind with him.
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Old 14-10-2008, 12:51 PM
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pmsl ' a case of the kevins ' love it lol
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A case of the #'kevins' by the sounds of it! Often dogs around 9 month hit a real stage in their lives when - even if you think they have been well trained - it all seems to go out of the window. Normally will be resumed - normally after a couple of months - but be very firm but kind with him.
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What can be done in the interim,to stop any of the problems that we are having,I`ve never had this happen with any of the other Dog`s I`ve had,and who`s " Kevin"

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Old 14-10-2008, 02:33 PM
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Sounds a bit like teenage tantrums and trying it on usually it's best to go back to basics like sit and come see how you go from there good luck.
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Re: Help Something Has Gone Wrong ??

I have seen a few posts like this on this forum.

Maybe he is pushing it with you. To see how far he can push you... maybe trying to state his rank in the household? Maybe he thinks he's top dog, when you should be.
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Old 15-10-2008, 07:41 AM
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I have seen a few posts like this on this forum.

Maybe he is pushing it with you. To see how far he can push you... maybe trying to state his rank in the household? Maybe he thinks he's top dog, when you should be.
I agree. I think for the first few weeks Jack was settling in and was probably very eager to please as he was only just getting to know you, and how far he could take it with you. It does sound though, that now hes made himself at home, hes starting to consider himself in control when you should be!

The "pack leader" theory is very much debated on the forum and so I'm sure others will post conflicting advice, its your choice what you wish to carry out. Some people say that in order to become the pack leader you must send clear signals to the dog in order for him to know that you are boss and he is bottom of the rank. This, it is said, will make him much happier as he no longer has to feel the need for challenging you, and he will settle happily within the family knowing his position.

The actions to take in order to show him this include always eating before you feed him, making sure you go into new territory (a new room/outdoors) before him ie. never let him walk through the doorway in front of you... never give him any attention (not even eye contact) when you return home until he calms down, and always win more games than you lose (in regards to tug of war games for example). Also you could teach the leave command so that while playing, he must always give the toy up at your request. These things, apparently, will let him know that you are top dog, not him!

Many people say that the pack theory in todays domesticated dogs holds no relevance whatsoever and that the dogs know we are not dogs but we are humans... but we have had a lot of challenging behaviour lately from zach, he is approaching 6 months and becoming a nightmare, so I am trying these techniques for a while to see if we get anywhere x

ps. in regards to his mad sprinting sessions, I think all puppies do this, its getting rid of any excess energy they have. Are you exercising him enough? Even if you are I think he'd prob do that, zach has his five minutes of madness in the evening then flops!
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Re: Help Something Has Gone Wrong ??

Agree with Louise there, good post.
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