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26-05-2011, 08:48 AM
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On scent marking, I came across something yesterday comparing Wolf & Roaming Dogs on Dunbars Dogstar daily site.
They found dogs, do not mark periphery of territority, but radially along the routes, and more frequently near their abode. Perhaps the Fixed Action Patterns, corrupted by selection mentioned in one of RF's posts with article (humping etc?) are the best explanation. So it supports the statement : Dogs were selected from wolves, but have more juvenile and modified behaviours than wolves, due to removal of natural selection pressure and the effects of Man's selection for domesticated working dog preferred traits (including sociability with man & trainability).
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For eager & reliable recall, be fun for the dog to come back to! Then often send them off right away to do what they wanted! DT&B - Glossary of acronyms & jargon terms. Encouraging good behaviours, whilst consistently avoiding practise of bad alternatives leads to extinction of the bad. So if dog sits 6/10 times it doesn't sit 4/10 times, encouraging with the right rewards (positively-reinforcing) enough for 9/10 times means it now fails to sit only 1/10 times, sit 10/10 means...
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28-05-2011, 02:18 PM
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28-05-2011, 06:55 PM
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Do tell more, I haven't actually bought any recent Dog books, and got rid of almost all my old ones (they weren't very good anyway).
This thread is funny looking back  Dunbar: why pack-theory just complicates thingsQuote:
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For eager & reliable recall, be fun for the dog to come back to! Then often send them off right away to do what they wanted! DT&B - Glossary of acronyms & jargon terms. Encouraging good behaviours, whilst consistently avoiding practise of bad alternatives leads to extinction of the bad. So if dog sits 6/10 times it doesn't sit 4/10 times, encouraging with the right rewards (positively-reinforcing) enough for 9/10 times means it now fails to sit only 1/10 times, sit 10/10 means... Last edited by RobD-BCactive; 28-05-2011 at 07:17 PM..
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28-05-2011, 07:08 PM
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 good on ya, Em-L! i would however like to add, that humans did not 'evolve from' chimps - we branched-off from other primates before the modern chimpanzees [both bonobo & common], orangutan, gorillas & other primates developed. back to dogs - who separated from wolves, according to mitochondrial-DNA studies, approx 100k-years ago, based on the rate of genetic change & spontaneous mutations, tho there were occasional interbreedings since.
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terry pride, APDT-Aus, apdt#1827, CVA, TDF *wolves R wolves, dogs R dogs, + primates R us.* tmp, sept-2007 
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28-05-2011, 07:20 PM
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And DNA evidence has shown that Darwin's "Tree of life" with ever seperating branches is not the whole story; for instance not only, our mitochondria appear to be absorbed bacteria providing certain cellular functions (metabolic). But just like certain types of tree, species can merge and combine in weird ways too strange to imagine, unnatural practices in the natural world!
 Not just in plants like Cereals, but some creatures are animals as juveniles and plants in adult form eg) edible seaweed popular in Wales & Japan.
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For eager & reliable recall, be fun for the dog to come back to! Then often send them off right away to do what they wanted! DT&B - Glossary of acronyms & jargon terms. Encouraging good behaviours, whilst consistently avoiding practise of bad alternatives leads to extinction of the bad. So if dog sits 6/10 times it doesn't sit 4/10 times, encouraging with the right rewards (positively-reinforcing) enough for 9/10 times means it now fails to sit only 1/10 times, sit 10/10 means...
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28-05-2011, 08:53 PM
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Amazon.com: Dogs: A Startling New Understanding of Canine Origin, Behavior & Evolution (9780684855301): Raymond Coppinger, Lorna Coppinger: Books
This is a very good, interesting in-depth read on the evolution of dogs looking into where they came from and why they behave how they do, Rob. ...eta i've linked to amazon US as it's currently out of print in the UK...
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28-05-2011, 08:56 PM
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