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Old 23-05-2011, 10:53 AM
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Re: Help! - strong lungeing Lab - halti/collar advice needed please

umm I would go as far as saying obese by the way their front legs are splayed apart! Sorry didnt mean to Hijack going now
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Re: Help! - strong lungeing Lab - halti/collar advice needed please

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Considering your arguing over the use of a head collar vs a harness - this statement is surprising.
I think the point she is trying to make is that gadgets such as headcollar and harnesses should be used to assist management of the situation, whilst training is going on, not as a permanent solution.

I agree with her entirely. It is not always as easy as you may think to persuade a determined puller to walk to heel, especially one who has been allowed to pull since puppyhood. A headcollar particularly can be used as a management tool, whilst the other end of the lead is attached to the dog's collar, making heel walking easier to train. You are not going to get much response from a dog who is not interested in what treats you may have and is self rewarding by running ahead and pulling you with him, particularly if the dog is much stronger than you.

I have no experience of a harness, so won't comment, but I should imagine that the same principle applies, used in conjunction with an ordinary collar.
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Re: Help! - strong lungeing Lab - halti/collar advice needed please

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Considering your arguing over the use of a head collar vs a harness - this statement is surprising.
As a temporary aid, I find a canny collar a lot more useful than I do a harness. Don't see how that's surprising. I just think using them for eternity loses point, its meant to be an aid not a solution to a problem.
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Re: Help! - strong lungeing Lab - halti/collar advice needed please

Yikes - all getting a bit heated!! but thank you all for your suggestions and comments......I'm liking the look of the Gencon if we do try one of the very many 'gadget's' out there. It would only be temporary as I too dislike any facial interferring on the dogs part and it's only whilst he is so keen to greet others during late puppyhood as it is now. Not trying to stop him meeting other dogs either but I just want to make him 'think' before he pulls to get to the attraction and drag me with him. I'm not quite (as yet) one of these people you see getting pulled all over the place in an amusing oh my god...thank god our dog isn't like that - kind of way but as he increases in weight and size with age I want to try and nip this in the bud....NOW.

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Old 23-05-2011, 12:29 PM
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Re: Help! - strong lungeing Lab - halti/collar advice needed please

i have a 4yr old lab who wasnt walked much if it all so was hopeless on the lead pulling terrible i use the halti for him and it is fab stopes all the pulling and gives my wrists a break
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