No idea, because your post was not visible to me, when I wrote mine.

OK, I've read it and yes, we were thinking on similar lines about "magic" items. I would argue my post is aimed at fixing the notion of how clicker & whistle works before worrying about a whistle.

Of course the "Best whistle to use" is a Montana Lite as it has variable pitch and may reach 1/2 a mile, only problem is learning to blow it right. There you go "normal service is resumed"

Thank god for that.

I'd recomend th eplastic oes, as per Statler. Don't get a metal one, on those freezing days in winter, you might just find it stuck to your lips (ouch)

Get a fixed pitch easily replaced plastic whistle, 210.5 or 211.5 - many girly colours available for co-ordinating a look (mine are purple or green, better than boring black.

Adjustable whistles have a habit on unadjusting themselves.

Whistles are used in 'peeps' to indicate commands:
1 peep = sit/stop/look at me
2 peep = turn
3 peep (1 long,2 short in low sound style) = nose down and hunt
4 peep = return to me

Only a dog that's deaf can't be trained by whistle, the others just feign deafness

Thunderers tend to be primarily used in the setting world for 'stop'

Another vote for the Acme 211 1/2.

Unless you are training a working spaniel - I'd stick to 1 pip means sit, and 3 means recall. Retrievers (and other pet dogs) dont need to learn a whistle cue to turn or hunt.

As many have said - the sound of the whistle means nothing to a dog - you need to associate it with something rewarding. If you dog doesnt recall already it wont magically start running back just because your blasting on a whistle....

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i have dogs (clients/my own) respond to 5p whistles. it's in the training, not in the sound.

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Hmmmm, now we got a Acme 210 as when a friend in the field blew hers, Phe really looked at her and my friend said "hmmm she's had the whistle before!"

Bingo!! I thought.

Does she listen? Does she hell!

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thanks follks he does come back byt odd occasions i panic and wanted the whistle so he cant hear the panic