Jake will listen to me when i tell him know for the puppy biting but my kids he wont!
If they tell him know for biting he will bark at them and keep jumping back n forth whilst wagging tail and wants to play but this just winds the kids up (they are 5 13 & 16) and they moan.

How do i get him to listen to them? I only went to feed the rabbits and all i could hear was jake barking and my daughter shouting NO!

Ive told them to leave him when he gets like this and to sit up on furniture with arms crossed and not give him eye contact, my daughter said this was what she was doing but he still kept springing about and barking and nipping her feet.

I dont know how his previous owners went about this as they said they dont want future contact as its too painful. He only came friday so its early days so thought id ask on here for best advise.

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My two dogs pay more attantion to my 3 year old cousin than they do me.

I just taught him the same commands as we use, I also took him along to puppy class, and when we had a trainer I made sure he was here a few times. He picked the commands up and the dogs just seemed to start taking notice.

Do you take him to puppy classes?

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Get them to train the same way you do under your supervision of course for the youngest one. Any commands you teach get them to help train especially leave it, down, no etc. The 13 and 16 year olds certainly should be involved and just as capable as you

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Owned by Buster cairn terrier mix and Leo netherland dwarf mix bunny

i would suggest DogStarDaily, download the FREE e-books, Before U Get Ur Pup & After U Get Ur Pup.
they have heaps of info on puppy-mouthing, WHICH believe it or not, we want - pups must learn a soft-mouth,
AKA inhibited bite, and they cannot do it as adults, without mouthing as 'kids'.

meantime, do U have a crate, a baby-gate, or a tether?
when he gets bonkers & turns into a snapping over-excited maniac, GIVE A TIME-OUT -
don't say a word, pick him up bodily & park him on the other side of the gate, in the crate, or on the tether
out of reach of human attention. make it short - a minute is too long, he'll not make the connection.
30-secs is plenty: let him back out calmly, offer a chew-toy.
if he begins snapping again? time-out, release, time-out, release, time-out...

he has to make the intuitive leap,if i get mouthy, i am out of the group.
he can only do this by repeatedly experiencing I DO A, I GET B.
scolding will not help him understand it - a cheerful "oops!" or "sorry!" is plenty.

DON't leave him with the 5-YO unless the older-child[ren] is in the room, & STAYS in the room - if the older kid goes,
EITHER the child or the pup goes with the older child[ren] - if they leave the 5-YO, the pup goes with the elder sibling.
if they leave the pup, the KID leaves *with the elder sibling*.
a 5-YO is not old-enuf to understand consequences & logic, the age of reason is 7-YO and even then,
if the 5-YO is a boy, and over 7-YO, i would not leave the pup & boy alone until U are *sure* he is trustworthy;
winding up the pup, teasing, wrestling, shouting, running, poking, etc, are all boy-activities that trigger bites.

between ages 5 and 10-YO, boys are over 10-times as likely to be bitten as same-age girls -
because they are so much more likely to engage in behaviors that cause bites.
i hope the youngest is a girl it will pass earlier, in 90% of cases - some girls are very precocious & can be
trusted with a dog, but double-digits - 10-YO - is generally the safe-age for girls, and some boys even at 12-YO
cannot resist winding-up the dog. my nephew never MET my Akita in her lifetime -
he saw her go out of my bedroom & the door, & enter the apt & my bedroom, when he visited - Period.
and he was 12 or 14-YO when he last saw her, and he stayed for 3-weeks.
he has ADHD & tormented their family dog incessantly - i knew he WOULD do something, & if he caused a bite,
i would want to throttle him & my sister [his mum] would be upset. so no contact was the rule - at all!

let us know how it goes, there is a STICKY on nipping pups, too - loads of links, there.
happy training,
- terry

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*wolves R wolves, dogs R dogs, + primates R us.*
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this pup also sounds as if he has loads of energy to spare...
exercise in the form of free romps is good to unwind him, an older pup or a dog who likes puppies
is a terrific playmate to get his yayas out - playing fetch, chasing a soft-toy on a flirt-pole [like a cat fishing-pole toy],
playing tug-of-PEACE... U stop moving / arm goes deadweight? he drops the toy and instantly is offered the toy
to resume tugging - his reward for STOPPING is the chance to resume the game! Lots of fun.

a tired dog is a good dog - and a tired puppy is less frustrated. his mouthiness will go down when he has had
a nice active playtime, and is ready to relax with a chew-toy or a stuffed-Kong or a sanitized hollow bone
with frozen canned-food or his kibble softened, stuffed & frozen.

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*wolves R wolves, dogs R dogs, + primates R us.*
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Not yet as we only got him on friday but its one thing i fully intend on doing.

They use the same commands as me which is ahah or no, maybe i should stick to one only?

We dont intend on using a crate for Jake but do intend getting a gate for the stairs. A tether? A lead tied to wall? If so im sure i could arrange that.

A boy im affraid, but a very sensitive boy who dont play rough n tumble... Yet.

I take him for 2-3 walks a day but i worry about to much exercise due to him being GSD and his hips in future.

Thank you all for your advice, i will search the mentioned articles.

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2 to 3 walks on a leash? he gets no off-leash romping, running play?
if that is the sum of his physical activity every day, it's no wonder he's a snapping gator -
he's got energy coming out his EARS like smoke! wow.

running around on good traction is not bad for joints - wall to wall,
grass, a sand or pebble beach, dirt, brick or block or [dry] slate paving [wet slate can be slippy],
clay tennis courts, are all good traction surfaces for pups to run & play on.
muscles help to support joints - and he will not develop strong muscles,
walking round on a leash at the pace that an adult-human moves - which is 5 or so miles per hour.
dogs can easily reach THIRTY-FIVE-mph, Greyhounds 40-mph and Whippets 42-mph.

an off-leash play session with another dog or puppy is ideal for exercise -
and pups or dogs are quite good, most of the time, at monitoring their own activity /rest -
when they get tired, they lie-down; when they are rested, they get up.

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*wolves R wolves, dogs R dogs, + primates R us.*
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This conflicts what ive already been told oh this is soooo confusing to me and feel like im doing wrong now
He does have run arounds in the garden & we also play fetch with him in the garden.
As stated we only got him friday from another family who didnt walk him at all so i doubt he has any recall, im quite ill at the moment (suspected mumps) so i havent arranged training classes as of yet so im doing my best but feel so wrong now.
So i should take him to park let him off lead and try recall? How long should i let him out for as previously ive been told 5 mins for every month old, he is 4 months so i was taking him for 3 20 min walks a day.

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Right, ive just taken Jake for a 10 min walk to the field then let him off for 10 mins and trained recall and played fetch/run, then a 10 min walk home.
Hows that sound?
The evening walk i cant take to this place as its very dark and i would fear for my safety so that will still be a walk on lead.

God i feel confused lol

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I would suggest at least double that amount either off lead or on a long line while you assess and if necessary train the recall This will be fine for joints as long as it is on soft ground (rather than tarmac)

Get him out and about also, start taking him to places with lots of different people around just getting him used to being chilled in different surroundings.

Restrict the access between him and the kids, the kids should do short basic training sessions. What i would do is pop a light house line on him attached to your waist and keep him with you around the house randomly treating and you should find this will encourage him to want to be where you are (a really helpful trait for the future). When you need a break pop him in a gated room with a frozen stuffed kong or raw bone and leave him to "settle". Build this up slowly if he has any seperation anxiety.

Personally i would not play tug games until he has outgrown all the rowdiness and you have total control because the children will not be able to win at this game and it could encourage tugging on them/their clothes etc which is a nono in this house but its one of those things people have different views on.

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