terrorise the neighbors is not likely. annoy the #$@! out of them with barking? quite likely.

the best way to avoid a nuisance-barking GSD is to have the dog indoors, especially if U are not home.
going out with the dog, and keeping them happily occupied - play with a ball, sniffing games [find the toy, etc],
are also good. leaving the dog out for SHORT times, once the pup is past 8 to 9-MO and has good manners
as a foundation, can be fine; but young puppies are uncertain, and will often react to being solo by whining,
barking at noises-off, and barking to be let in - they're just kids, they need adults to monitor and model
good behavior and growing confidence.

a second dog just means more barking; barking is contagious, if U walk into a shelter and one dog barks,
75 to 85% will begin barking. it's an alert, it's excitement, it's LOOK AT ME, it's many reasons -
but they will mostly all bark, cuz it's catching.

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Haha phew, seeing as my partner is a police man it could be awkward if we get a noise complaint!
Although maybe that could work to our advantage!

It works the other way round, too, though.

If you've got a well behaved/obedient dog and it's got Border Collie ANYWHERE in its lineage, people think it came out of the womb ready-trained.

Typical scenario:


Fellow Dog Walker: "Your dog's very obedient! Isn't she lovely? What breed is she?"

Me: "Crossbreed"


FDW: "Oh, do you know what breeds?"


Me: "Well, yeah - she's 7/8 Border Collie and 1/8 Poodle, as it happens"


FDW: "Ah, that'll be it then! Collies are really intelligent and easy to train, aren't they?"


Me: "Yeah, that's right" (inwardly -ing)

Completely agree!!
They dont realise how much time and effort we put into them to make them well behaved!

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I would think a collie would have more potential to be badly behaved especially if you didn't put the work in and it was bored

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Spot on. Which is why they're not for everyone.

Unfortunately, so many confuse the "Collies are intelligent" thing with "Collies are easy". A bored/untrained clever dog is FAR more likely to go self-employed/amuse itself than a not-so-clever one - especially if it's a WORKY clever dog.

Or people buy them expecting a top obedience/agility/flyball/working trials dog without putting the work in and wonder why they don't do well. After all collies just naturally know what to do right?

I couldn't handle one I know that. Way too smart and too much work for me

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What colliepoodle says is very true.
I have a Border Collie from working lines. People often ask about him on walks because I tend to get him to "work" during parts of our walk ( frisbee tricks, sheep balls etc) but he does do normal doggy things too They often comment that BCs are very obedient dogs and so easy to train but I do try to diplomatically explain that their intelligence means that they can learn undesirable behaviours just as quickly unless you teach them an alternative and that it's also particularly important to give them regular outputs for their instinctive behaviour as well as plenty of mental stimulation Hence I explain that he is worked and competes in agility and does plenty of clicker training too, on top of his walks etc.

What Terry says about breed specific tendencies is also true. That said, of course, there is always going to be a certain degree of variation within any breed; in my experience for example some show bred BCs are less likely to have such a strong "eye" and working ability. Although there are of course many breeders these days who breed purely for dog sports such as agility, flyball and obedience.

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Leashedforlife you are a knowledgable member but you don't know everything and come across very narrowminded and well childish if someone questions you

Good luck approaching my Patterdale terrier with that attitude, you'd fail epicly. In all honesty I can see where you are coming from all breeds have tendancies and more poetential to do things than others but you really cannot comment on any specific breed with a leg to stand on and something to go on if you have never owned nor experienced it personally. FACT.

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I totally agree with you.
Researching a breed is so very different to actually owning one or working with them.

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