I have a Halti (something like a dogmatic head collar) for my Briard and use a training lead so I can clip collar and halti and it does give me a lot of control over him as he is very strong, but now he is walking with all most a slack lead. Even so I think I will keep using the double lead I find it easy to use.

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ahhh thank you! ive never heard of a dogmatic but ill definatly try it! If you can walk 2 newfies together then i should be able to manage 1 saint (she says,fingers crossed! )

I really need to sort it because it makes Tink looks like a naughty dog when she really isnt,i hate it when people say " oh shes a handful". Shes perfect off the lead and so quiet in the house! its just the lead thats a nightmare...

i,ll try a dogmatic on him when i manage to buy 1 and see how it goes.he.s had a halti on since he was a pup but since he started getting bigger he really hates them

I have daft comments like "whose walking who?" even though they are walking either side of me good as gold. I also have stupid comments from people who visit the house: Do you walk them? Of course. Don't they pull you over? But don't expect miracles. Newfies in general are not pullers, and Joshua only wears his ordinary half check collar. It is Ferdie I have trouble with because he knows he is stronger than me and if he sees another dog, I've got now hope of stopping him without the dogmatic.

I have to say that I am not a fan of the halti on a large dog. The dogmatic is stronger, is cushioned, and designed to stay put.

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