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Old 30-12-2010, 06:59 PM
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Re: Cockier spaniel advice

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So should I perhaps do 5 minutes of getting him to go out in the kitchen' then wait a while then do 5 mins of something else e.g sitting?

Also how do I train him to leave things and how to drop things?
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So should I perhaps do 5 minutes of getting him to go out in the kitchen' then wait a while then do 5 mins of something else e.g sitting?

Also how do I train him to leave things and how to drop things?
I would do the leave and drop later, just take it easy dont try to do too much, i would just do the getting him to move rooms when you want him to not just for the sake do 5 mins of sitting about every couple of hours or so dont tire him of it, establish this then move on to leaving, so you could get him to sit, treat him for it then while he is sittin place the trest on your knee hover over it with your hand saying all the time leave, leave dont ask him to leave it for long this needs to be built up over time, but establish 1 thing then move on.
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Re: Cockier spaniel advice

Hello
Thank you for the help people gave me.
I have been doing it a bit everyday and hopefully soon I will notice the benefits.
But I would like to ask a few questions.
First of all how long do I do it before i stop giving him treats and should I cut them down gradually or just stop giving them to him?
Secondly if I want him to go out in the kitchen does it matter if I do without the treats occasionally?

Also could someone give me some advice on other training methods.
I don't know how to do them.

First of all lying down.
I know you are suppose to put the treat in front of his nose and pull it down to the floor but when I have tried it has not worked so I,m assuming I,m doing something wrong.

I would also like to know how to make him drop, leave and stay

Thank you
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I think it is too soon to stop the treats altogether. You need to proof the behaviour, which means to keep giving treats until he just goes out there when you ask. Then you can alternate it, give a treat one time, don't give one the next time, etc until eventually you can do without.

I found that getting a dog to go down is easier if the dog is already sitting. So, when the dog is in a sit position, guide the treat down to the floor but do not say "down" until he is actually there. That way he associates the word with the position.

To get a dog leave something, the easiest way is to swap. So, if for instance he has your slipper find him something better. Could be a biscuit, could be a toy, but something else. As soon as he lets go of the slipper, say leave and give him the other thing. Again you need to do it a few times before he will get the message to just leave on command.

Stay is the hardest one. You will need lots of patience for this one.

First, get him to sit, then back away a few steps, hold your hand up palm towards the dog and say stay. Then go forward and give him his treat. Each time you do it retreat a little more, but do not rush it. You won't be able to get him to stay for a few feet away, then next time leave the room and expect him to still stay. It is a long process and needs to be done gradually.

I am so glad you are taking the time with this dog; you will soon see benefits and he will be willing and happy to do as you ask, because he wants to, not because he is scared to do otherwise. That is the most important thing you are going to achieve.
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Re: Cockier spaniel advice

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Hello
Thank you for the help people gave me.
I have been doing it a bit everyday and hopefully soon I will notice the benefits.
But I would like to ask a few questions.
First of all how long do I do it before i stop giving him treats and should I cut them down gradually or just stop giving them to him?
Secondly if I want him to go out in the kitchen does it matter if I do without the treats occasionally?

Also could someone give me some advice on other training methods.
I don't know how to do them.

First of all lying down.
I know you are suppose to put the treat in front of his nose and pull it down to the floor but when I have tried it has not worked so I,m assuming I,m doing something wrong.

I would also like to know how to make him drop, leave and stay

Thank you
Cutting down the treats would depend on how well he is doing, if he is reacting well and its consistant then yes but do replace it by lots of fuss dont ignore that he had done something for you, if you can see when he doesnt always get a treat he is not performing as wek go straight back to treating dont let him slip back.

To obey the "down command" in my opinion sitting has to be fully established first, if it if then use the "down command" you say its not working with just pulling the treat to the floor? sit with your back to the wall,sofa or wherever is easiest, lift your knees slightly, much lowerr than your dogs head, if your dog is on the left put the treat in your right hand about a quarter of the way under your knees the dog will have to get down to go for the treat, all the time you are tempting him with the treat keep saying "down" this will teach him what down means as soon as he is down give the treat immediatly and loads and loads of fuss.

To get mine to leave first he has to know what leave means,put a treat on the floor, gently hold your dog reasuring all the time "good boy" "good boy" "leave" "leave" then let him go with a command you want to use "ok" or "get it" for example usually when starting this you can feel your dog tring to get free so dont hold him for too long this can be built up, eventually you will feel him more relaxed, staying back from the treat more of his own accord at this time it will be as he is understanding what he needs to do, when you put the treat down without holding him back use the flat of your hand outstretched facing him sayin "leave" "leave" again only expect him to "leave" for a couple of seconds and gradually build it up.

Hope everything is going well and remember dont do too much for too long with him.
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Re: Cockier spaniel advice

Do you think this will stop the dog from being aggressive when we are trying to get him out in the kitchen sometimes?
The aim of this is to get him to do that.
Will this help or might he need something else for that?
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Do you think this will stop the dog from being aggressive when we are trying to get him out in the kitchen sometimes?
The aim of this is to get him to do that.
Will this help or might he need something else for that?
If you are leading him out into the kitchen with treats and praise, then he has nothing to be aggressive about. I think you said originally that you were grabbing his collar to get him out, which will make him snap, but the way you are doing it now should make him want to go out there.
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