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Re: Fighting for dominance
I have a pack of 6 entire bitches 5 entire dogs and 1 castrated male. I like Swarthy have never had a problem. Granted 3 of my bitches are related my foundation bitch is the pack leader and the other dogs all know this. I have had 2 older bitches come to live in the pack and had no probelms introducing them to the dominant bitch. I have a minor squabble between grandaughter and grandmother once but the older bitch soon put the youngster in her place.
On the other hand I have had on a couple of occasions had fights between the males. It is most likely that they have picked up on a bitch that is coming into season. Their fights are always handbags at dawn all noise and not a lot else and they usually share a dish of food notlong after their squabble.. Whippets do tend to like living in packs and get on well with their own kind but 2 of my bitches are not whippets a greyhound and an irish setter and these 2 just join in the the rest of the pack although the greyhound can be a little aloof with the whippets. |
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Re: Fighting for dominance
At the end of the day, I think the answer is yes it can be done a lot of us have done it succesfully, but if you have two same sexes or more that are not going to get on then it can be a big problem. Every dog is different, some are going to get on some are not. Some are going to co-exist happilly without competing. Wrong pairing and they are going to compete over everything, some cases it will be hormone based like seasons with bitches and with careful management during the time and/or spaying will settle and not re-occur. Same with Males a bitch in season can set them off but they can be ok the rest of the time and after. Dogs are dogs with built in instincts and drives, its not a child you can give a pep talk to and tell them its not nice behaviour and they shouldnt do it. A dog is what he is, we can modify behaviours and manage them and in a lot of cases sort any problems, but its a dog first and foremost.
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Likewise - as above - the majority of people I know of who have had disharmony within their house - at least one or more of their dogs has been neutered - so not really a hormone thing either OTOH - I can fully understand tension between males when there is a bitch in season around. |
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Re: Fighting for dominance
Although I describe Tegan as a dominant bitch she isn't overly dominant more in a matriarch way. She is the old lady of the pack and the others have always respected this. I do not back her up as the dominant dog she the dogs get fed in whatever or I choose to feed them she doesn't necessarily go into the garden or for walks first. I take whoever I want first and greet who ever I want first but she is the one that the whole pack respect
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all else being equal - opposite sex is always the safest bet.
Male-to-Male posturing, wrangles in parks, etc, are often more noise than physical assault with intent to maim. bitches fight in the same-home for BREATHING rights - males may fight for BREEDING rights. when estrus is over, the males May -not always, but often - return to their prior tolerance or sociable selves. many bitches, after One Fight which causes minor injury, never lay down their weapons again. they have long memories for a grudge - dogs may forgive + forget, or have specific triggers - food, a bone, pig's-ear, vying for attention, a toy, a coveted spot - these are relatively easy to control + avoid. it's not that rare for bitches to have one quarrel, and it is impossible to share space again - period. i'm not the only trainer who has seen this; it's a well-known phenomenon, and can occur even among Labs, Goldens, and other relatively low-aggro breeds. it's quite common among Nordics, LGDs, guarding-breeds, terrierrrists, big-game dogs, etc. it's relatively rare among companion breeds - Cav-KCS, Pekes, etc. former-fighters are especially prone to this - BOSTON [Bull And] TERRIERRRISTS are toys *now* but their origin is among the ex-'pit' breeds, and they're highly susceptible to bitch-wars, as are APBTs, Staffies, AmStaffs, AmBulls and other bully-breeds.
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we went 18 months trying to sort out issues between 2 of our girls one spayed one not, we had the one not spayed, spayed and i wish we hadnt as her aggression towards the other female increased tenfold and like one of the other posters we sadly had to let molly go as she was the one starting the fights and even becoming intollorent towards the others in our gang. The fights were horrendous with Ella being very badly hurt by molly in the last 2 fights, dogs seem to have a spat and its over, bitches when they get a notion they seem to want to fight to the bitter end. Molly is now so happy being an only dog with a super family. I should add that Ella and Molly were fine outside of our home and garden environment together. I must add that i have 4 bitches ella whos spayed and the other 3 not and all get along famously, not one issue ever between them |
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