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Old 13-10-2010, 07:02 PM
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at end of my tether with pup ;(

please please can someone help me!! your advice on here so far has been priceless....

izzy is an 11 week old springer lab cross. We have had her 4 weeks. For the last 3 nights she has been going absolutly mental running around the house for 2 hours barking, biting (not mouthing) jumping on the sofa jumping at anything that moves, destroying everything (including our clothing)

Today at about 430 we took her out for her first ever walk. She hasn't settled since that walk and has been on the go. She has just NOW settled after weeing twice in the house, pooing on the carpet - eating it - and then vomiting it everywhere I am at the end of my tether. She has been with my husband all day (he works from home) so has had attention and playing in the garden.

It's not all too bad as she sleeps in the crate through the night 7-8 hours, only normally has 3-4 accidents in the house a day but these last three nights have really taken it's toll on my patience. I have tried time out in the garden, time out in the crate, telling her no loudly, screaming at the top of my voice which makes her worse - i'm running out of ideas. She has her first puppy class tomorrow which I am dreading because of what she will be like afterwards

Please reassure me my puppy is normal!!!!!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 13-10-2010, 07:14 PM
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Re: at end of my tether with pup ;(

I do sympathise but its normal behaviour, particularly for a very active working breed like a springer spaniel or border collie.

Hopefully she will be tired after her puppy class tomorrow.
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Old 13-10-2010, 07:16 PM
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Re: at end of my tether with pup ;(

OMG just reading your post reminds me how hard puppyhood is.

It is all normal and kind of hits you in waves, feww good days you think you cracked it them BAM it all goes to pot and its back to square one.

My Tips for survival -

1) Buy the Gwen Bailey "The Perfect Puppy" book
2) Enrol in training classes asap
3) read the sticky on here about puppy mouthing/biting (its a long haul but worth the read as there is loads of reasurrance and advice, warning it will get worse before it gets better)
4) Alcohol !!!!! this is essential
5) Hang on in there, the cross of dogs that you have chosen is going to make puppyhood partcularly intersesting but the end results will be fantastic
6) Frozen Kongs for when you have had ENOUGH !!!!!!

Oh and a big Hug because you need lots of those to get through it.
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Old 13-10-2010, 07:21 PM
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Re: at end of my tether with pup ;(

awwww Rainybow you made me cry but smile at the same time! I will take all of your tips especially the alcohol tip!!! We are off to puppy class tomorrow wish me luck!!!!!!
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Old 13-10-2010, 07:28 PM
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Re: at end of my tether with pup ;(

Hi there,im sure many of us puppy owners,past and present will sympathise with you!
Alot of pups have scatty times,these lesson when they are able to go out walking and to training classes etc.If however you are having it really bad,then try and lesson the space your pup can do this,by using stairgates etc.Once your pup can go out for walks,then allow a short quiet time in its crate when you get back,as this can often calm them down from the excitement of it all.
What food are you feeding your pup?And are its poos etc all ok?
Hopefully the puppy classes will really help you,you will meet lots of other people in the same situation and learn how to manage it.
Go back to basics with the toilet training,out every half an hour or so,lots of praise when toilet is done outside and ignore any indoor accidents,make sure to thoroughly clean with a bio washing liquid/powder solution to get rid of smells etc.
Try and make sure the children arent getting your pup over excited,they often do without realising,and all chaos lets loose!
The puppy phase does eventually pass,but it can be a hard slog for a while,hang in there,you are doing a great job,be consistant and try not to get stressed,as this will make pup stressed too.xxx
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Re: at end of my tether with pup ;(

just incase you got the wrong end of the stick, i think the alcahol is for yourself and NOT the pup.
stick with it im sure you will get there soon enough.
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Re: at end of my tether with pup ;(

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just incase you got the wrong end of the stick, i think the alcahol is for yourself and NOT the pup.
stick with it im sure you will get there soon enough.
LOL LOL LOL!!!! See you lot are fantastic you have got me smiling already!!!!!!!!!

Her poos are all ok shes on Beta puppy food some are a bit looser by the end of the day but unless we get to the poo as soon as she has done it she does eat it and we are training her firmly that she must not do that with treats etc. She has got the hang of house training but hasn't learnt to ask to go out verbally yet (i.e just sits at the door) so she tends to have accidents when we are out of the room.
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LOL LOL LOL!!!! See you lot are fantastic you have got me smiling already!!!!!!!!!

Her poos are all ok shes on Beta puppy food some are a bit looser by the end of the day but unless we get to the poo as soon as she has done it she does eat it and we are training her firmly that she must not do that with treats etc. She has got the hang of house training but hasn't learnt to ask to go out verbally yet (i.e just sits at the door) so she tends to have accidents when we are out of the room.
One of my dogs still just goes and sits at the door and he is four and a half! Of course, he will hold on till someone comes to let him out, but with a puppy, if he is out of your sight, you need to find out where he is just in case. He could give up asking if no one comes to let him out.
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Re: at end of my tether with pup ;(

My pup is coming upto 15 weeks and on the whole he's a brilliant little dog but every so often he has a devil day just to keep me on my toes!

I've found walking him makes him hyper so like someone else has suggested worth putting pup in cage when you get home just to give him time to settle!

Can't comment on the poo eating as mine hasn't done it.....yet!!

Toilet training we still have the odd off day where he might wee but it's always our fault for letting him wander and not watching him!

It will get easier! You suddenly get the realisation that they havnt had an accident for a while or havnt nipped for a few days and it makes you realise how well they are doing!

Good luck and enjoy the alcohol ( I havnt turned to that yet and if I did it wouldn't be the dogs fault it would be my teenage sons!!)
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Re: at end of my tether with pup ;(

I had a similar problem a few weeks ago under a post called naughty evenings.

Is it at all possible that your pup is tired and doesn't need a time out in his crate, but needs to be left in there until he gives up and goes to sleep?

I never would have thought that Charlie was tired and acting like a terrible toddler who needs to be told to go have some sleep to stop him being nowty. He didn't seem at all tired, but after advice on here I tried it. I put him in his crate using the same procedure as bedtime and after whinging he'd maybe chew something in his crate then sleep for a few hours! And he'd wake up much better behaved and I'd have had chance to recover too.
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